Iron Man Quicked by one. Future and Past mixed, logical segments thrown
all over the place, mixed all up, chunks of future and past and present,
all stories mixed, all logic upside down, all things unknown and known,
all colors showed. Pieces of past, remote past thrown together with
pieces of present and far off future, the oldsmobile 98 in ancient rome,
the mars computer in New Jersey of 1950,the star man in the year
23444556 comes to you and tells you his news, watch TV: you see your
mom when see was young and you are old, but then, it is all mixed up you
become young again, or mixed, and all elements of reality mixed
disregarding any logic, any story line, all things together all things
disjoint, you get the idea, wild and crazy combinations, the brain gets
mixed up and mixes up all of its categories, and such then the outside
world mixes up, or is it the outside world that observes the brain
machine and such, and so on and if 0 is the brain observer and 5666 is
the outside world, what is 56 ? what IS WERREMTTN ? what is the mountain
and then mixed, segments, logical segments thrown on the ground, in the
air, mix past and future, mix it all up, you win become free and happy
and crazy, deny logic, and win...
The Ape Thug Machine.
Saturday, March 23, 2013
Monday, March 11, 2013
Anything goes, nothing matters, nobody cares:
From:
http://kunstler.com/blog/2013/03/fortress-of-lies.html
Anything goes, nothing matters, nobody cares:
Anything goes, nothing matters, nobody cares:
This is the exact description of reality as it is, we try to make things count and be important, we try to create totalizing religions, viewpoints ideologies interpretations, a lens that explains everything, where everything makes sense according to some set of logical segments and so on, we try to superimpose upon reality some totalizing view and filter, some grid where we have an answer to all, a grid that explains all and shows us what is right and wrong: a war, a battle, peak oil, we need economic growth, anything, any of the large scale totalizing ideas pretending to be all, but is in fact just a puny, insignificant way to see things that doesn't matter, that doesn't mean anything that is probably always wrong or irrelevant and so forth.
Look at the pebble on the street, that occupies your mind and thought, that is the entire universe for all time and space for the moment your attention is on that, the next moment it could be a car tire: but such it is, information is how the observer interacts with reality, any new observer will have a new information set and hence a new reality, information is what gives Matter its inertia, its mass, since without information matter is free to be anything and nothing (and create super abstractions, if matter is 0 and information 1 what is 433 or minus 34?), no grid is superimposed upon reality, just like the grid of the laws of physics pretending to be real: it is just a superimposition of a grid on reality that doesn't mean anything: change the observer the laws change or there are no laws at all, the new particle accelerator can be an apple a can and a car tire and so forth.
10 years ago the war in Irak was everything, all attention was on that, it was everything and such, now no one even remembers it, it doesn't even exist anymore, the same will happen with the Economic Growth Myth or Peak Oil or anything else, in a few years people will not even know what the heck all the fuss was about, even because the years of real economic growth of the west occurred between 1955 and 1995 and no one noticed it or talked about or even thought it was operating then, a whole bunch of other things were important: the idea of processes operating in the background, described as being always present, the other minds always present and this other mind aware state of being is always just a moment away from disappearing. Just like when you get tired of reading the same things over and over again, you need a change, in that exact moment you sense that it is all irrelevant, it doesn't matter, anything goes, nothing matters, no one cares.
spark plugs
http://kunstler.com/blog/2013/03/fortress-of-lies.html
Anything goes, nothing matters, nobody cares:
Anything goes, nothing matters, nobody cares:
This is the exact description of reality as it is, we try to make things count and be important, we try to create totalizing religions, viewpoints ideologies interpretations, a lens that explains everything, where everything makes sense according to some set of logical segments and so on, we try to superimpose upon reality some totalizing view and filter, some grid where we have an answer to all, a grid that explains all and shows us what is right and wrong: a war, a battle, peak oil, we need economic growth, anything, any of the large scale totalizing ideas pretending to be all, but is in fact just a puny, insignificant way to see things that doesn't matter, that doesn't mean anything that is probably always wrong or irrelevant and so forth.
Look at the pebble on the street, that occupies your mind and thought, that is the entire universe for all time and space for the moment your attention is on that, the next moment it could be a car tire: but such it is, information is how the observer interacts with reality, any new observer will have a new information set and hence a new reality, information is what gives Matter its inertia, its mass, since without information matter is free to be anything and nothing (and create super abstractions, if matter is 0 and information 1 what is 433 or minus 34?), no grid is superimposed upon reality, just like the grid of the laws of physics pretending to be real: it is just a superimposition of a grid on reality that doesn't mean anything: change the observer the laws change or there are no laws at all, the new particle accelerator can be an apple a can and a car tire and so forth.
10 years ago the war in Irak was everything, all attention was on that, it was everything and such, now no one even remembers it, it doesn't even exist anymore, the same will happen with the Economic Growth Myth or Peak Oil or anything else, in a few years people will not even know what the heck all the fuss was about, even because the years of real economic growth of the west occurred between 1955 and 1995 and no one noticed it or talked about or even thought it was operating then, a whole bunch of other things were important: the idea of processes operating in the background, described as being always present, the other minds always present and this other mind aware state of being is always just a moment away from disappearing. Just like when you get tired of reading the same things over and over again, you need a change, in that exact moment you sense that it is all irrelevant, it doesn't matter, anything goes, nothing matters, no one cares.
spark plugs
Buy a House ?
Buy a House ?
To buy a house most kids would need some kind of mortgage, 20 years at 700 dollars a month maybe ? who knows, depends where when how and so forth: but this implies that you will need to have 20 years of a steady job somehow, paying you a steady pay, that not too disruptive things happen, that there are no big changes in 20 years and so forth. Is this reasonable ? is this even possible ? is this reasonable when the economic relgion, the lifestyle, the fashion of the age is to always change and innovate and be competitive, and compete, and change "kinds of jobs every 2 years" and so forth, when everything is in competition with everything else, when all jobs, endeavors can be questioned, are constantly being questioned, are being judged and evaluated by ever changing rules and rulers and standards and so on (since nothing real or concrete is being produce like a washing machine or a TV or a car, since that all belongs to the old fashioned "Industrial Age" and we now live in the more advanced and progressing "Post Industrial Age" the new fangled "Services Age" those services that are full of BS, health care costs rocketing and innovation and education and so forth and so on and such) since most work today is simply much ado about nothing, but since economic growth means that the work and "activity" must increase then that means ever more much ado about nothing must be invented and created, alot of spinning wheels, different wheels, alot of random activity change, emergencies, all kinds of changes, crazy working hours, hires and fires, as change is the only thing that can create increase activity and new jobs and so forth, but especially how to evaluate the worth of all of this useless activity can change instantaneously, is always so very iffy, yesterday that app was worth gold, today it is worh zero as everyone all of a sudden notices how stupid and useless it was in the first place and so forth, all things done can have any value and any judgment, can be hacked and hosed from one moment to another and no one would notice except the crappy worker fired and so forth (especially in banks and the "Financial Industry").
But in a rational world work is not normal but should be the exception, should be perfomed when needed and when necessity, not programmed to last 8 hours a day everyday and so forth and not only that but work, the amount of work needed, the number of jobs created should constantly decrease in a progressive and advancing and evolving society, a scientifically organized society, there should be ever less need for work as things get optimized, automated and so forth, in such a society economic growth would occur through fewer and fewer jobs, less and less activity and the growth would correspond to more and more money to consume more and more but with less and less work needed: but we got this mechanism all upside down: work is expected to generate ever more work and activity to create economic growth: a double contradiction, not only is there a lot of work being perfomed that generates nothing, produces nothing but represents a proxy for power and status relationships, is a proxy for human interaction, as if without work human interaction wouldn't even be necessary at all except for a few random times when something really needed to be done, but the economic growth myth and religion imposes that ever more useless work and activity and much ado about nothing be created and invented, the most non productive possible society ever. Not only is much work not producing anything, but this economic system needs ever more work that doesn't produce anything, go figure and all because they can't simply and honestly distribute cash to all and call it a day with this stone age idea of labor needed and so forth. But there is simple reason for all of these paradoxical contradictions and namely: man cannot simply accept that he needs to labor less and less as science and technology advances, he can't find a way to distribute money, so he imposes a double contradiction, do loads of useless work that creates the appearance of work that creates human interaction so as to make it look like work so as to then finally distribute cash, whcih is the only real thing that counts, not the activity associated to it.
So, in light of this, how can there still be a housing market at all ? how can people load on a 20 year mortgage when no job or activity will ever be steady and sure again ? who will pay for the risk ? the buyer risks losing a lot of cash, the banks get richer through interest and so forth, and the buyer has to start all over again in another state to perform a new fangled new job that all of a sudden popped up and so forth.
And then the pay levels may change, so many variables may change since in a society where the very definition of what is work is no longer even clear (only the amount of time at the job counts, but if you could pull off the same "production" (whatever that means) with only 2 or 3 hours a day of work, no one would pay you for that since that would be like cheating, we still all have this 18th century factory idea that time is equivalent to product when what it really means is the guy paying you is paying to take as much time away from you as possible just because, to punish you, since everyone likes to punish everyone else by taking time away from them and making believe that is work, your time (lost) is your product - but with smartphones always on the time at work can become infinite) anything goes, anything can be invented as work or needed, any game can be played, any new rules can be enforced: but all of these rules are all based on the same old same old power and class structure heirarchy: he who has the cash to pay you is the boss and you must abide end of story, and he decides what is needed or necessary and important all else is irrelevant( only that most of what he decides also is irrelevant and arbitrary).
The entire model of buying homes is so iffy: of course some could say that now that work is so mobile, internet based, is all information based, you could work from home or work anywhere, only the information interaction counts and so forth: but then companies wouldn't impose a constant presence in the premises and homes in NYC and Los Angeles an London would be worth as much as any place else and the prices would all go way down: obviously this won't happen, real estate is a power struggle, is a proxy for a constant fight between who has and who doesn't, large populations are kept out of homes by high rents and high home prices but no one can do anything about this since the amount of cash accumulating everyday worldwide is constantly increasing and this trickles down to incireasing property prices sooner or later (if the NYC family didn't buy that house in London, the Chinese rich will and hike up the values) and so forth.
And you can have millions of empty homes and home prices never going down like in Spain, Italy and China and so forth, and you can have governments tearing down slums and leaving the poor without any homes as happens in africa only to build very high priced homes, as a statement of power, as a status thing, you see I have the thousands of homes you all need but I will keep you out of them to show my power and to keep the prices up by keeping an artificially created home pressure always present and so forth.
But the bottom line of all of this is simply: groups of people, societies, cultures, countries, tribes will do all kinds of irrational things, can organize themselves and create the most irrational rules and behaviors and ways of doing for no reason at all, arbitrarily, totally arbitrarily: as if the logic in one mind can be linear, but the logic of 2 or more minds can be totally flawed and irrational and so forth simply because man ends up always being fight, competition, playing games between each other in who wins or loses who can cheat the other guy, who can gain any upper hand by random situations and forces and configuration of forces appearing from nowhere and going to nowhere and so on.
The reason why the USA has some more rational and cheaper home prices compared to Spain or Italy or Brazil or London and so forth is because the USA is a flexible system in a larger sense: easy hire and fire, a lot of changing and changes and people moving around to other states letting home prices change somewhat (although not very much anymore since these prices tend to remain high, but anyways) whereas most of the rest of the world has a savings mentality, they want to save cash (instead of consumerism like the USA) and the best place to park their cash is in real estate and keep the prices high: and also because most of the rest of the world is not flexible like the USA; hire and fire and change and so forth.
But then again eveything could change in a jiffy, if all of those chinese familes or london families feel their homes aren't worth much anymore the prices could indeed crash, randomly and chaotically, it could happen, everything is based on very subtle fake stabilities and the more we go forward the more unstable everything is and you could have millions of empty homes with ever increasing prices and millions of homeless too, all possible combinations and events are possible.
8 thugs
To buy a house most kids would need some kind of mortgage, 20 years at 700 dollars a month maybe ? who knows, depends where when how and so forth: but this implies that you will need to have 20 years of a steady job somehow, paying you a steady pay, that not too disruptive things happen, that there are no big changes in 20 years and so forth. Is this reasonable ? is this even possible ? is this reasonable when the economic relgion, the lifestyle, the fashion of the age is to always change and innovate and be competitive, and compete, and change "kinds of jobs every 2 years" and so forth, when everything is in competition with everything else, when all jobs, endeavors can be questioned, are constantly being questioned, are being judged and evaluated by ever changing rules and rulers and standards and so on (since nothing real or concrete is being produce like a washing machine or a TV or a car, since that all belongs to the old fashioned "Industrial Age" and we now live in the more advanced and progressing "Post Industrial Age" the new fangled "Services Age" those services that are full of BS, health care costs rocketing and innovation and education and so forth and so on and such) since most work today is simply much ado about nothing, but since economic growth means that the work and "activity" must increase then that means ever more much ado about nothing must be invented and created, alot of spinning wheels, different wheels, alot of random activity change, emergencies, all kinds of changes, crazy working hours, hires and fires, as change is the only thing that can create increase activity and new jobs and so forth, but especially how to evaluate the worth of all of this useless activity can change instantaneously, is always so very iffy, yesterday that app was worth gold, today it is worh zero as everyone all of a sudden notices how stupid and useless it was in the first place and so forth, all things done can have any value and any judgment, can be hacked and hosed from one moment to another and no one would notice except the crappy worker fired and so forth (especially in banks and the "Financial Industry").
But in a rational world work is not normal but should be the exception, should be perfomed when needed and when necessity, not programmed to last 8 hours a day everyday and so forth and not only that but work, the amount of work needed, the number of jobs created should constantly decrease in a progressive and advancing and evolving society, a scientifically organized society, there should be ever less need for work as things get optimized, automated and so forth, in such a society economic growth would occur through fewer and fewer jobs, less and less activity and the growth would correspond to more and more money to consume more and more but with less and less work needed: but we got this mechanism all upside down: work is expected to generate ever more work and activity to create economic growth: a double contradiction, not only is there a lot of work being perfomed that generates nothing, produces nothing but represents a proxy for power and status relationships, is a proxy for human interaction, as if without work human interaction wouldn't even be necessary at all except for a few random times when something really needed to be done, but the economic growth myth and religion imposes that ever more useless work and activity and much ado about nothing be created and invented, the most non productive possible society ever. Not only is much work not producing anything, but this economic system needs ever more work that doesn't produce anything, go figure and all because they can't simply and honestly distribute cash to all and call it a day with this stone age idea of labor needed and so forth. But there is simple reason for all of these paradoxical contradictions and namely: man cannot simply accept that he needs to labor less and less as science and technology advances, he can't find a way to distribute money, so he imposes a double contradiction, do loads of useless work that creates the appearance of work that creates human interaction so as to make it look like work so as to then finally distribute cash, whcih is the only real thing that counts, not the activity associated to it.
So, in light of this, how can there still be a housing market at all ? how can people load on a 20 year mortgage when no job or activity will ever be steady and sure again ? who will pay for the risk ? the buyer risks losing a lot of cash, the banks get richer through interest and so forth, and the buyer has to start all over again in another state to perform a new fangled new job that all of a sudden popped up and so forth.
And then the pay levels may change, so many variables may change since in a society where the very definition of what is work is no longer even clear (only the amount of time at the job counts, but if you could pull off the same "production" (whatever that means) with only 2 or 3 hours a day of work, no one would pay you for that since that would be like cheating, we still all have this 18th century factory idea that time is equivalent to product when what it really means is the guy paying you is paying to take as much time away from you as possible just because, to punish you, since everyone likes to punish everyone else by taking time away from them and making believe that is work, your time (lost) is your product - but with smartphones always on the time at work can become infinite) anything goes, anything can be invented as work or needed, any game can be played, any new rules can be enforced: but all of these rules are all based on the same old same old power and class structure heirarchy: he who has the cash to pay you is the boss and you must abide end of story, and he decides what is needed or necessary and important all else is irrelevant( only that most of what he decides also is irrelevant and arbitrary).
The entire model of buying homes is so iffy: of course some could say that now that work is so mobile, internet based, is all information based, you could work from home or work anywhere, only the information interaction counts and so forth: but then companies wouldn't impose a constant presence in the premises and homes in NYC and Los Angeles an London would be worth as much as any place else and the prices would all go way down: obviously this won't happen, real estate is a power struggle, is a proxy for a constant fight between who has and who doesn't, large populations are kept out of homes by high rents and high home prices but no one can do anything about this since the amount of cash accumulating everyday worldwide is constantly increasing and this trickles down to incireasing property prices sooner or later (if the NYC family didn't buy that house in London, the Chinese rich will and hike up the values) and so forth.
And you can have millions of empty homes and home prices never going down like in Spain, Italy and China and so forth, and you can have governments tearing down slums and leaving the poor without any homes as happens in africa only to build very high priced homes, as a statement of power, as a status thing, you see I have the thousands of homes you all need but I will keep you out of them to show my power and to keep the prices up by keeping an artificially created home pressure always present and so forth.
But the bottom line of all of this is simply: groups of people, societies, cultures, countries, tribes will do all kinds of irrational things, can organize themselves and create the most irrational rules and behaviors and ways of doing for no reason at all, arbitrarily, totally arbitrarily: as if the logic in one mind can be linear, but the logic of 2 or more minds can be totally flawed and irrational and so forth simply because man ends up always being fight, competition, playing games between each other in who wins or loses who can cheat the other guy, who can gain any upper hand by random situations and forces and configuration of forces appearing from nowhere and going to nowhere and so on.
The reason why the USA has some more rational and cheaper home prices compared to Spain or Italy or Brazil or London and so forth is because the USA is a flexible system in a larger sense: easy hire and fire, a lot of changing and changes and people moving around to other states letting home prices change somewhat (although not very much anymore since these prices tend to remain high, but anyways) whereas most of the rest of the world has a savings mentality, they want to save cash (instead of consumerism like the USA) and the best place to park their cash is in real estate and keep the prices high: and also because most of the rest of the world is not flexible like the USA; hire and fire and change and so forth.
But then again eveything could change in a jiffy, if all of those chinese familes or london families feel their homes aren't worth much anymore the prices could indeed crash, randomly and chaotically, it could happen, everything is based on very subtle fake stabilities and the more we go forward the more unstable everything is and you could have millions of empty homes with ever increasing prices and millions of homeless too, all possible combinations and events are possible.
8 thugs
- nameta9
- Philosopher
- Posts: 1765
- Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:42 am
Sunday, March 10, 2013
Party Pooper ?
Re: Lamborghini
by nameta9 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:34 pm lizbethrose wrote:uglypeoplefucking wrote:What i take away from the OP is that people who can afford to spend 3.9 million on a collectible car shouldn't be getting tax breaks. Be wrong and call me envious if you want, but i happen to agree. i also think using money that way is a pretty douchebaggy thing to do, but there's not much anyone else can do about it, except maybe take more money from them. Say state and federal sales taxes on such purchases that would effectively double the price. Make them give back as much as they squander.
This is what I mean by defeatism--There's nothing we can do. Well, six senators are retiring. You can always work toward getting your guy elected. Maybe s/he won't win, but at least you've tried. Not much in the general scheme of things, you say. Probably, but it's a start.
On the other hand, there so much money being spent--frittered away--by the Pentagon and the DOD. Almost $400B has been lost to Lockheed Martin and the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program ([url]washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/f-35s-ability-to-evade-budget-cuts-illustrates-challenge-of-paring-defense-spending/2013/03/09/42a6085a-8776-11e2-98a3-b3db6b9ac586_story.html[/url].) The project has never worked as it was proposed--the software developers are working solo (they're not even interconnected with each other.) But the main thing is the plane is in production and has been sold without complete testing. Only 20% of the flight testing has been done, so no one knows for sure if the plane is safe under combat conditions.
I'm sure there are other, very similar, stories hiding in the depths of the darkest closets on 'the Hill.' And I'm sure a lot of people will say--I don't have the time to look into any of them. And it's an arduous job to decide who to vote for. But you'll be voting for the people who create the legislation that determines how your money will be spent. In many ways, voting for the people who'll vote for you is much more important than voting for the President.
Thank you, upf.
Party Pooper ?
Why are you all such party poopers ? why can't I simply enjoy my million dollar car ? isn't this a free country anymore ? why should I feel guilty ? who cares, I can't solve the problems of the world, the world will always have problems, people suck, people are unlucky, this and that, a never ending stream and list, sequence of bits describing this or that or debates, etc. people fight, there are 7 billion turds on earth and so there are 7 billion problems, how on earth can I solve them ? who cares, let me enjoy my cash, end of story. And thousands of factories and industries and jobs are based on enjoying your cash and not worrying about all the problems of the world and such.
So the F35 sucks, who cares, so billions of dollars were "wasted": no they weren't wasted they payed thousands of high paying salaries, the goal is not the fighter plane, the goal is to create an excuse to give out salaries, the end result doesn't count, only paying people counts, get it now ?
Then what excuse would the 2 trillion dollar health care mafia of the USA have, what would they have to show for such a huge amount of money stolen from society ? the really incredible wastes are never noticed! and then how is it ok for the rich to buy homes in cities around the world hiking up prices constantly and punishing all of the average joes with ever higher home prices ok and buying luxury cars a sin ? but no one ever notices this either since everyone is guilty in keeping home prices high, they should crash like crazy everywhere but everyone wants to keep them high (they all feel rich like this) so as to create a barrier and wall to entrance to the future generation that will never be able to buy or rent. such idiots!
1) why shouldn't I buy a 3 million dollar car ? because liz says so ? why should I care what liz wants ? why should I feel guilty ? should I always worry about all the poorer or unlucky turds of the world compared to me ? who gives two c*ks and a d*ck ?
2) why does flanel jesus suck so much ? why can't he respond with more than a one liner and cry about others insulting him ? why can't I openly insult anyone I want and be free to say anything I want, who cares! we are all talking to ghosts, abstract non existent entities and so forth.
liz, you suck, there I said it. Now what ? can you imagine how many people would love to insult wildly and crazily everyone else they could on forums and blogs and so forth but can't because of all of this hypocritical "political correct" things and all: just say, the truth: everyone hates everyone else, everyone is in fighting mode always, everyone is always refraining from beating everyone else up as soon as they could and so on, just be honest and let it all hang out. Don't be like flanel that would love to insult me wildly but wants to pretend to be a good little boy, jakasses! And then all he talks about ever is about other people and never their ideas and such.
There will always be fights, contradictions, you want A, I want B, A fight B and A wins and so on, just deal with it, no problem will ever be solved, man can never solve any problem, he is contrast fight, conflict, he is defined by fight, it will always be like this until you all finally decide to stick wild v8 engines in skulls and change the mind structure.
thug head
Saturday, March 9, 2013
Reply To Flanel Jesus 2 :
From:
http://kunstler.com/blog/2013/03/reply-to-gary-north.html
From:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=182125
reply to 8 man was:
"So the one time you deviate from your endless repetitive spamming is to be an absolute cunt?
Fantastic contribution you've made..."
8 thugs reply:
Reply To Flanel Jesus 2 :
Well flanel sweater could have at least replied as follows:
"Thank You For Replying To Liz On My Behalf."
Anyways, thug head hits the nail on the head by saying that we need things, we need to saturate the world with things, ever more things, all kinds of things, cars, books, buildings, malls, big box stores, glasses, thoughts, concepts, text, symbols, you name it anything, all things, the craziest things, the most different things imaginable, a number, a concept, a box, plastic glasses you name it, just take any random set of things in a dump, that is so cool, ever more things, different things, so damn cool! I like that the number of things in the world is constantly increasing, the more things are put in the world, the more we all get rich, the more things are available to everyone, sooner or later it will become available to all and it will cost zero, a technological economy has so much economies of scale, produces so much free wealth that the cost of everything will drop to zero sooner or later, build trillions of homes and buildings, finally the cost of a house will become zero, free, build trillions of luxury cars, the cost of them will finally become zero, of course the rich could try to block you away from having that which is essentially free today by using cost as a barrier, as a fence to keep you out, but it will eventually become free. (what is this wishful thinking ? superstition ? a new religion ? a new faith in some new metaphysical mechanism ? is human nature finally different from what it has always been and namely fight, A against B, A wins B loses end of story ?)
So I like things, all kinds of things, disjoint things, totally unrelated things, manufacture trillions of things, I like big numbers, I like that everything is accumulating, is adding up and such. Do you know how many capacitors are in the world today ? trillions now (just cell phones have tens and we sell a billion cell phones a year)! do you know how many resistors are in the world today ? trillions ! that is so cool! I like big numbers, big numbers of things, saturate the worlds with big numbers, make them produce and buy luxury cars, soon we will all have a ferrari, keep on going.
And anyways, the rich deserve it, they worked hard, they risked and played the game and won, all you losers are envious and jealous, fairy tale green protecting, tree huggers are losers and fairies, you lost the game, I won, I win, ha ha I win, !
ON another note, I was calculating that in any population in NYC at least 100,000 families are rich enough to buy million dollar homes, but they don't have to, they already have them, but they can always choose to hike up the values of homes if they go on a frenzy, all of a sudden, something that could happen, or they could just keep their cash and wait, just like a chemical reaction, a small amount of a substance can change and create a reaction, a small amount of cash can hike up prices or keep them steady (they rarely go down, but anyways), but then: this is all very random, just a random bit (chaos, blind forces operating, total random, unpredictable), just if a few families all of a sudden decide to buy you could have a fast chain reaction and hike up prices and such, always punishing the poorer, but anyways: build trillions of homes, saturate the world and then they will cost zero, but even this is iffy, maybe they would all be bought by a few rich people and you would always be at the same spot again, but anyways.
thug head
cars ?
http://kunstler.com/blog/2013/03/reply-to-gary-north.html
From:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=182125
by nameta9 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:24 pm
Reply to Flanel Jesus, Son of Man, King of the Jews:
you could have answered to liz more intelligently in the following ways as*hole:
1) at least they are not inflating property prices in big cities and hurting poor people by buying houses and apartments, at least they are not hiking up prices in London, Los Angeles, New York City and so on and so forth and such with their heavy money;
2) liz is a lazy b*tch, welfare queen, envious of the rich and their hard owned money: they worked hard for their cash, they are not like you, lazy moron, they are not lazy slobs like you liz, welfare queen, envious of the rich and wants a free handout, so let them spend and enjoy their cash;
3) it is good that they buy high class cars, this helps industry and keeps people working and especially it helps to saturate the world with ever more cars and things, the more stuff built the richer we all are.
Now, take your choice, jesus, how do you wish to reply ?
thug head
From:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=182125
Re: Lamborghini
by nameta9 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:24 pm lizbethrose wrote:Lamborghini has a new car—the Veneno—described as a street-legal race car.
Only three will be made, but all three sold months ago. Two of them were sold to American business men. The price tag? Only $3.9M.
This story came out the same time the sequester was allowed to begin. Okay—So? So no one seems to care. Is not caring the result of apathy, or is it a sense of defeatism?
No one knows what the sequester will mean in the end or how it’ll affect the majority of US citizens. But I’m pretty sure very few of us will ever be able to pay $3.9M on a car we’ll never use—and get tax breaks as well.
Re: Lamborghini
Post by Flannel Jesus » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:53 pm
I don't understand. What does any of this stuff have to do with people buying expensive cars? What are you talking about?
Reply to Flanel Jesus, Son of Man, King of the Jews:
you could have answered to liz more intelligently in the following ways as*hole:
1) at least they are not inflating property prices in big cities and hurting poor people by buying houses and apartments, at least they are not hiking up prices in London, Los Angeles, New York City and so on and so forth and such with their heavy money;
2) liz is a lazy b*tch, welfare queen, envious of the rich and their hard owned money: they worked hard for their cash, they are not like you, lazy moron, they are not lazy slobs like you liz, welfare queen, envious of the rich and wants a free handout, so let them spend and enjoy their cash;
3) it is good that they buy high class cars, this helps industry and keeps people working and especially it helps to saturate the world with ever more cars and things, the more stuff built the richer we all are.
Now, take your choice, jesus, how do you wish to reply ?
thug head
- nameta9
- Philosopher
- Posts: 1759
- Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:42 am
Subscribe to:
Posts (Atom)
The contrast between details and general,