Tuesday, November 12, 2013

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Re: Government is not Economy

Postby nameta9 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:01 pm
"if you get rid of all the real jobs, real workers, and private businesses "

So you assume that there are enough possible exchanges for full occupation of everyone ? are there millions of real jobs - workers and private businesses that can exchange so many goods, enough so that everyone works for private entities ?

Not so, the governments must hire millions (and the military and many other entities) to compensate the fact that there can and will never be enough real jobs for so many people: and this can be done because the Technological Economy creates enough wealth to distribute a lot of it to people who do nothing.

Oh and by the way, the health care bloat is also a lot of fake jobs isn't it ? and the education and college bloat is also a lot of fake jobs isn't it ? and so forth, it never ends....

And give me an example of a real job which isn't in manufacturing building cars, or in construction building houses and a few others will you.

Don't put financial industry, they do nothing but fluff (and rip you off), don't put movies and cinema and entertainment that is also doing nothing only fluff for bored people at home watching TV and so on.

Moralistic you are though...

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Re: Government is not Economy

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Re: Government is not Economy

Postby nameta9 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:12 pm
Hey Das,your AVATAR... did you stick wild symbols, signals and chemicals in your brain style ? you are experimenting with your brain, did you crack open your cranium and shove a v8 engine in it and a jet engine for extra measure ? you are an Instant Singularity, how many new universes have you visited, what new wild emotional states and sense organs did you discover by changing all the neural circuits and so on ? how many microprocessors did you shove in your Man Brain that has now become a new processor, a slab of Matter interacting with another slab of Matter and defining all of a new universe and new Information Relationship Sets, etc... brainium abounds...did you make a huge trillion pages long incredibly intricate and complex diagram of a new brain with trillions of new symbols and connections and designs and signals and all kinds of things (trillions of times more wild and complex than those pictures of microprocessors you can find on the Internet) and implement it ? can you imagine what incredible experiences and states and so forth they can generate with a brain made like that ?

There are trillions upon trillions of new combinations you can try out by modifying all of the configurations of Matter in your cranium, go for it, just do it man, do it...



hey kris, are you sick in the head ? I want free handouts, I want free cash, I want other people's money, who cares about ethic and morality, I am a free entity who is greater than GOD.

We don't need further Economic Growth, we already have all the growth we will ever need, we need to distribute huge chunks of cash to all so that they can consume baby, consume, and buy like crazy, we need huge projects building trillions of rockets and skyscrapers and all things, trillions of cars, and so forth. There are 100 trillion dollars sitting in the banks worldwide not doing nothing, just being used as a weapon against the have nots in the form of inflated home prices and rents and so forth, nowe just steal that cash and give it all !

What is really hurting the economy is this stone age idea of "having to deserver it", "having to work hard for it" and so forth: nothing further from the truth, we need to give all the huge wealth a Technological Economy produces out to all for free instead of stifling the economy by an 18th century mentality that still doesn't see what we have become in the 21st century.

Of course our rich, developed economies will stagnate, the haves already have all they need (the home owners, old spoiled brats) and the have nots will never have anything, so it is this sick desire to punish the have nots with huge home prices and rents, cheap jobs paying little and so forth that is killing the economy and hurting all the poor, not the other way around.

In the meantime, the FED prints 80 billion dollars a month and simply hands it all out to the already super rich and their banks (or so they say so, can you believe it ? can you believe anything ? does it even make any sense ? does anything at all that is constantly being communicated by the news and Internet and books and all kinds of Information make any sense at all ? is any of it true ? what is even the meaning of true and so forth), what thugs, just this alone demonstrates how much free wealth is constantly being generated and should be given out to all for free, UNCONDITIONALLY.

Now go on, inside foul mouth, keep on blaming the poor and keep on sustaining an old fashion mentality destined to kill the world.


GOD


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Monday, November 11, 2013

Free Salaries = Save Nature!


Free Salaries = Save Nature!

Postby nameta9 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:47 am
Another disaster caused by "climate change" or CO2 increasing in the Philippines (if this is even true, can we ever really know ? the climate is such a complex intractable process all of our logic and models are probably worth nothing anyways, after all we can't even solve the three body problem so imagine solving the climate, but anyways...). So is China going to keep on buying 10 million cars a year ? is air traffic destined to continue ? is the world going to keep on producing and spewing CO2 by building real estate and TVs and smartphones and all else ? are people going to still have to "go to work" and use energy and burn CO2 and so forth ? Of course...

You can't render 10 billion people idle, you can't keep them at home watching TV so they don't have to go to work and use cars and pollute and so forth, so what gives ? You have to give them Free Salaries and Cheap Rents, and all the basics for free so they don't have to fight and work for it, give it all out for free so the economy doesn't have to keep on being such large scale activity and manipulation of nature and such.

Of course I don't see any green environmentalists asking or demanding for this to save Nature, since the greens and environmentalists are all wealthy, spoiled, well off "Nature Lovers" (just like the old hippies were all bored middle class kids with too much time on their hand playing around for an imaginary revolution) who don't care how much rents are and so forth (they want rents and homes to cost a lot that is why they are always against building homes and building in general, to preserve the value of their "real estate" with the excuse that they are doing it for Nature and not their own wallets). They want to keep their class status so they say everyone has to work and deserve it or maybe go back to the stone ages and agriculture with your bare hands and so forth. And they hugely hepled create the disaster of Nature going wild and climate going wild by not allowing Nuclear Energy and Atomic Energy to be dominant, the cleanest and most advanced energy should have been the number one energy source for decades, instead they created a terror psychology against all things nulcear, that is the cleanest, healthiest and best energy ever, go figure, so they got carbon energy burning to generate electricity and that created tons of CO2 and killed the climate once and for all and so on. Those few Nuclear accidents are nothing compared to the damage the non use of Nuclear will create, and those few accidents are so exaggerated, so blown out of proportion to make it look like Nuclear is the devil, maybe they are paid by the oil industry or carbon industry to make Nuclear look bad.

And instead of burning all trash in energy creating furnaces they want you to separate the trash in so many extra plastic bags and then talk bad about plastic bags: we could have used one bag for all and burn it but by their green religion force everyone to multiply the use of plastic bags creating ever more glut of plastic bags and so forth and so on.

Everything the greens Nature Lovers do is another extra damage to the environment, they never solved a problem only created ever worse ones, with their phony Nature Loving religion.

They should demand Free Salaries to all, Cheap Rents, enought with this "you have to deserve it" mentality, enough with this "work mentality"; the hard work idea of life, the Technological Economy is now rich enough to give everything to all for free.

AMEN..



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Saturday, November 9, 2013

Spider Queen

[quote="Uccisore"]

Point being, handing out money to the poorest people doesn't do anything except set the prices of everything higher, because price is an expression of the fact that there's not enough of something to go around [i]no matter how much numerical money everyone has[/i]. 


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IN other words, I'd rather make 10,000 a year in a world in which cars and video games are dirt cheap because rich people have flying cars and robots, than make 50,000 a year in a a world in which that 50,000 guarentees me bread and water. The numbers really aren't important.[/quote]

But that is the point: there is way more than enough of everything to go around that everything should be dirt cheap: millions of empty homes worldwide, thousands of empty McMansions, etc. there is a glut of stuff, homes, and the potential to build enough for everyone (with millions of idle hands unemployed worldwide, you could build everything you can imagine for all 10 billion people in a year, bar none) : but the mentality, culture, the need to be unequal to another, the need to force another into need makes the prices of the BASIC needs sky high, as high as possible, just because, as an expression of power, as an expression of forced, make believe, arbitrary inequality just because, because people like to be unequal to others and the power that gives them so forth.

The case of sky high health care in the USA, sky high home prices in Southern Europe and so forth is a fake, make believe, arbitrarily assigned price that needs to be high in order for a richer class to make money off basic needs, there is no structural or objective reason for this, there is no resource scarcity or no "not enough for everyone" operating, just a forced situation: actually it is the other way around, there is a glut of homes in Spain, so much so that they now need to demolish thousands of buildings hoping to prop up the prices, how does that make sense according to the Standard Economic Theory that always wants to make you believe that there are real objective measures and reasons for economies that do bad and "do not grow", when in all truth it is all BS excuses.

In fact the economies are doing bad because they cannot employ and build everything for everyone, the real potential is there just stifled, put on hold waiting for the prices to go up or some mechanism to create a profit to pop up again, aka higher prices and so forth.

But a Technological Economy has a deep problem: it can easily build and saturate all markets with all goods (thousands of empty homes in Spain, and don't even get me started with China, a glut of buildings beyond anything ever seen on earth!) can create a huge amount of work for a few years and then there is nothing left to do anymore since it has all been built and achieved (a billion cars can easily be built if wanted and so forth), hence it generates way too much wealth way too easily to know how to mange this new situation, hence it is in crisis mode constantly, always not knowing what to do, total chaos and instability, the Technological Economy flies in the face with all of the stone age, 18th century "hard work" mentality all the BS economists talk about, infrastructure means nothing, can be built by the ton loads as had been done in JAPAN, yet JAPAN has been stagnant for 20 years, or so they say, I don't believe in anything anymore since JAPAN seems to be way richer then so many other countries that seemed to have always "grown".

Even a simple old fashion 1970s or 1980s equilibrium where prices where at least in line with salaries would go a long way to "solve the crisis" (even though these social - political -cultural problems will never be solved as Man is Problem by definition).

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Friday, November 8, 2013

Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!






Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

Postby nameta9 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:04 pm
Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

We are all just a moment away from Total Oblivion, just a heart beat away from disappearing forever and for good instantaneously - by stroke, heart attack, earthquake, sudden death, etc. So now what happens to our huge, elaborate, completely totalizing and saturating mental construction of the world ? ... of all the rules, logic, the memories, the entire structure of the universe we have created in our mind to navigate it, a complex incredible structure made up of rules, and thought paths, laws learned, patterns recognized, all of the repetitive patterns discovered and translated and formatted into laws of physics, laws of living and behavior, social conventions and so forth and so on constructed during a lifetime lasting decades ? ...

It all disappears in a jiffy, all the laws where worthless, you disappeared instantly anyways, the repetitive patterns we have so much faith in were useless, the logic and rules false, irrelevant, fake, made up, a bluff, a deception. And so it is with all of our memories and rules and the entire constructions of our mind, all of our memories are a liability as much as they are an asset in that they condition us into believing too much in them, the memories and knowledge condition us to falsify constantly and continuously reality, in order to make it abide and converge to our models and expectations, that we think are so solid and real and confirmed: nothing further from the truth, they are zero, nothing.

This is because a Mind Brain is simply a processor that adapts its neural networks and rules according to the inputs it receives and creates a complete set of laws, it completely self programs itself according to a program imposed by nature, reality and itself and so forth. But there is really nothing behind it:

Just because we are used to seeing things evolve and slowly develop, a story line makes us think reality is more than a simple instantaneous input, reaction, output, a point like event disconnected from all past, future present and space, a nothing that exists for a moment that tends to last zero, a sequence of zero time duration moments and pictures creating a fake story and so on.

But you can imagine a universe, a processor, a mind, a modified mind that is instantaneously programmed with all of the memories and a given life story and that mind thinks it existed for a long time when in all truth it was assigned instantly, and so it is with all reality, Matter self defines itself in a moment, creates an entire universe from zero and then makes itself think that it evolved and had a story line. And so forth and all of the combinations in between, a universe of constantly changing instantaneous Information Relationships reciprocally defining themselves and creating reality and then disappearing, every moment a new universe, a new big bang, watch out for the next moment, you may disappear.

And so all laws and logic are a never ending deception and illusion that works for just some time and then is useless and worthless for eternity and so forth. Of course all contradictions accepted and are operating as usual.


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Re: Pubilc Debts - The Truth

Postby nameta9 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:39 am
Amorphos wrote:They just need to create more 'artificial wealth' [is that what it is?] for the third world, and in a manner that fits the logic – so to say. e.g. fits the story being told.


There is no artificial wealth, only power struggles, distributions of money representing wealth and so on. A Technological Economy generates tons of REAL WEALTH which has no way to be distributed since people "Must Deserve It", hence the distribution of money is always a conditional, always dependent on some aribtrary value system, some aribtrary "reason" to distribute it, someone deciding (and thus having much power) who or where or what money will be distributed to who etc. All the BS language and politics and so forth that all the economists chant about like workers must be competitive, or cost too much, or we need more innovation and so on is simply a secret code saying that money will be distributed only if certain conditions, aesthetic conditions are achieved, according to what fake, arbitrary, almost moralistic model countries and economies follow.

But mostly money is distributed because a "Profit Must Be Made", hence the huge worldwide real estate price inflations and overconstructions that occured in the USA and Spain and so forth: the only reason why the homes were built was because the prices kept on increasing every month, homes in Spain tripled in price in 6 years (they tripled in Italy too, only they still don't notice it, they still can't see how insanely high their home prices are compared to their puny salaries), in the USA they sometimes doubled (flip that house! TV shows, etc.) and so forth, hence the "productive forces" of a Technological Economy are activated and can freely express all their power (just like in the last world wars, only now we have even more power). Also a huge Credit Bubble appeared, meaning Free Cash to all, hence subprime loans and this too is a result of the power of a Technological Economy generating trillions of dollars of extra cash worldwide that doesn't know how to be used to make a profit, hence through the worldwide banking systems, got loaned out to all the poor fools in the USA and Spain so that they too could "buy a house".

Now in Spain they want to demolish thousands of buildings (they have hundreds of thousands of new empty homes (that always cost too much compared to the puny Spainsh salaries), and the buildings are quite nice looking, take a look at it with Street View Google Maps) hoping to make the prices "go back up again", not noticing how insane the whole ball game is. Creative Destruction and it will increase the GDP of Spain as destroying wealth and breaking things up counts as a positive just as much as building things up, go figure...

We are actually too rich to know what to do with ourselves, a Technological Economy generates real wealth, can build millions of homes easily, can give it out to all for almost free, we just can't wrap our heads around this, hence we create the debts mechanisms, and the profits mechanisms and we make everyone play the game of who is winning against who is losing, who is gaining cash to the detriment of who else, all a poker game etc.

The greens say that some externality is paying for this free wealth generating technology, the climate, the environment, the limited oil in the ground we are exploiting once and for all and so on: I tend to not believe this story line, yes, some of it is true, yes there are limitations, yes, there are problems, but they can be solved somewhow if we want, the real limitations are all psychological, social, political, stone age brains reasoning according to systems that have completely changed. Just look at Peak Oil, they have been warning us for decades of oil ending, we now have a glut of energy, gas, wind, solar and so forth, I see no energy limits here: maybe the only real environmental limit is the CO2 in the atmosphere and global climate change, this may be a real danger, but anyways...




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Tuesday, November 5, 2013

Pay Me Back!




Re: Pubilc Debts - The Truth

Postby nameta9 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:36 pm
Also, a very important corollary: the debts must be paid back in some way essentially, so goes the standard economic (BS) theory, but in order to pay it back the "Economies Must Grow", the Debt to GDP ratio must decrease, that is the GDP must grow and so lower this ratio, but GDP growth means economies become richer, have more money, this is why all the stooges in Europe, the USA and JAPAN (and most of the world) keep on repeating, like broken records, like robots, like the total idiots and clowns they all are, that we must "Spark Growth", the "Economies Must Grow", like obsessed (and always blaming this or that for the "low growth", the workers, the economy "not competitive enough", the education level, the not enough innovation and so forth and so on) wishing on a star, wishing in miracles, since this will no longer ever happen and if it does the growth will always be minimal as anyone living in the USA, EU and JAAPN can testify, jut look at the standard of living in the last 20 years in most of these places, etc.

So the higher the debts means the more "guilty" (the morality police) the economies - societies - countries are of "Not Growing Enough", since the promise of the last few decades was, oh, you can make all the debts you want, we will increase our GDP, aka become richer and always be able to pay them back, since we had so much GDP growth from 1950 to 2000 (never mentioning how a true exception that era was, how incredible it was that so many luck chance pieces contributed to such a long period of economic growth in the developed world making them go from undeveloped to developed, etc.).

So now the DEBT/GDP ratio is 100 % in the USA, between 80 to 170 % in the EU according to which failed and bankrupt state you consider, and 200 % in JAPAN or so they say (can you even believe all of this economic BS ? I have a hard time giving any credit to any of this "Standard Economic Theory" BS at all at this point...), that means that these economies must grow and grow a lot in order to decrease that ratio, something totally impossible!

It is like a person who has greater expenses that the salary he takes in but is always hoping to get a raise, some automatic miracle raise that will make him pay it all back again. But why should he get a raise ? why should these countries grow, if growth is over and done with for good for most of these old, saturated, conservative, decrepit stone age mentality entities that are nostalgic of the great 1950s and 1960s ? why on earth should anyone give them raise if they are worth virtually ZERO, since the value of people, economies, civilizations and the entire human race can always be assigned arbitrarily to anything you want, the value is simply given by what the more powerful force in a transaction assigns the other side ?

So now keep on chanting that the Economies Must grow and "Create Jobs" (totally idiotic) and so forth, never looking at the truth square in the face: the party is over, now give out free salaries and cheap rents to all and cut all the BS!



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