Wednesday, October 31, 2012

SPACE X TIME

SPACE X TIME

How big is a computer program ? how much space does it occupy ? or how much time does it occupy ? none or a trillion, it is an Information Relationship, independent from Space and Time (and don't confuse the time with the time it takes to run the program since this is a variable and can be any according to what you run it on, etc.). Time and Space is just a substrate upon which Information Relationships express themselves, but as such, anything can be a substrate to anything else, etc. Each point in space has a local clock time according to how many events occur in that point compared to how many events occur in another point (since only comparisons can be made, no absolutes here, only relative to each other), so some local clocks tick very slowly, very few events occur (that rock under the surface of Mars has been still for many years, etc.), but each point in Space has a clock and potential events could occur, so each point in space is a possibility, but according to time, so Space multiplied Times is the effective size of the universe, each point can host anything and anything can be hosted in any time slot, so Space times Time is the size of the combinational universe, the potential universe, each point in the universe (and which size is the point ?) multiplied a trillion years is the substrate upon which Information Relationships can be expressed, each point multiplied a very long time line, each point disjoint and independent of another, each point in Space multiplied each Time slot in time (or Time Quanta, 10^-100 picoseconds ?) is the substrate available...but you can invent TIME X SPACE X TIME X SPACE X anything you want and create New Science, as everything is a new discovery and absolute truth, everything is 100 completely new, I have discovered new things continuously, a new discovery every moment..

But can you saturate all Space and all Time with events, does the fact that points are separate and disjoint limit the number of concurrent events that can occur ? or independent events can occur, or does the distance between points mean a distance of influence and interaction making some events change the events next door and such ? Each point is free to express a set of events...multiply the point in space by how much time it was still or by how much time it occupies doing nothing or by how much time it could be doing something and such...How big is the point ? is a planet a point ? is an electron a point ? multiply each electron times a billion years and that gives you a substrate size upon which events can occur...or multiply a volume of space times a billion years...

THE APE CAN

Thursday, October 25, 2012

Memory Kills the Future

Re: The Laws of Laws

Postby nameta9 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:54 pm
James S Saint wrote:Laws are formed from Consistencies. It doesn't matter who or what observed or deduced them.


yeah, new words, new old stuff, already said, saying the same old things with new symbols and such, the identity principle and such, I am at a much higher abstraction level, the Laws of Laws are way beyond what you think I am talking about, I am already past logic, at a higher dimension, a higher state, but you just use puny logic over and over again, kill logic, kill reasoning, kill truth, I win forever...

Memory Kills the Future

Everything has been invented and done, now we have a huge memory of all past inventions and things, nothing is left to do. Everything is already heard, everything discovered, nothing is left, we must erase all of the past memory of all knowledge and science and invent things all over again forever and then forget all over again: case in point, the generation that lived before WW 2 was kind of cancelled by the war, a new generation came and invented Rock music (why can't a new band like the Beatles come again ? because it has been done, no young group can invent all the novelty all over again, same for Woodstock, counterculture and all such), and then the invention of the Microprocessor and so many new things, a young generation had all of those possible inventions waiting, now it has all been done, we are at the end of the road, all is memorized in the internet, all is finished, erase the memory, start all over again, the memory blocks creativity, the young can't invent everything all over again, they are condemned to do nothing for the rest of their lives, it is all over, (playing with smart phones is an example of a peaked society and culture, it is all old stuff being done over and over again, the camera, the blogs, whatever), science too as a memory device, the internet as a memory device making everyone idle since it all has been done.

I have explained all of philosophy once and for all on my posts, now it is all over, there is nothing left to invent, hence we must erase all, free all memories from the past, forget the past, and do it all over again forever, no cultural stimulus when you already heard that music and read those ideas and such, so kill memory, invent all new things, forget all, forgetting will set the young free to repeat all over again, all the"old" new things, etc.

That is why only devastating and changing the Brain Circuits is the only real novelty left, nothing else is left, change the Brain circuits and you really create infinite novelties forever...
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The Laws of Laws

The Laws of Laws

Postby nameta9 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:27 pm
The Laws of Laws

What are the general Laws of "Laws" themselves ? They are repetitive, can be applied again and again in different situations and things behave similarly (the same?), but then do they always imply time and space ? do you need a memory to remember that the laws are the same and repetitive ?

The Laws of how Laws are constructed are mostly the Laws of how a Processor, Observer decodes an input according to the laws fixed within the Decoder, Processor, Observer, in short, the Man Brain. Change the way the Brain is set up and you change the very essence of Laws themselves, you deconstruct and tear apart laws the themselves, the Laws of Physics couldn't exist if you didn't already have the concept of Laws already present in your narrative, discourse, in your Mind, etc.

But the Laws of Laws themself are Arbitrary, as usual, and even the Laws of the Laws of Laws, and the Laws of Change, etc. All arbitrary repetitive, recursive patterns that make sense to something that decided what patterns were in the first place, that hard wired them as Absolute invariants otherwise it couldn't work at all, couldn't even notice "Laws" at all, decode them or work at all...

I AM THE OVERMAN (as imagined by Frank Zappa).

12-21-2012 12:1212121212 .... pm THE END IS NEAR

As in Free Physics...

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=179812

Friday, October 19, 2012

Aliens on Mars

Re: Alien Life on Mars

Postby nameta9 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:51 pm
dragon wrote:Another problem here is the individual''s capacity to see what is there. For example, when Captain Cook first arrived in the Antipodes, some of the natives within view of the shore simply did not see the ships. That is, the ships were so alien to them that their minds just rejected them. So, can we be sure (a) that our minds would not reject sight of some beings that are too alien and (b) that scientists minds are the best prepared to rejister the existence of the trully alien - as opposed, say, to the minds of science fiction writers, but of course it is scientists who are the front line position, in the field, telling us what does and does not exist?


Maybe what you want to say is:

For example, when Captain Cook first arrived in the Antipodes, some of the natives within view of the shore simply did not NOTICE the ships.

They saw the ships but didn't notice anything special about them, maybe it was just like background noise or such (although I am not really sure if a human couldn't notice the patterns, the size and other features of a ship that truly standout, but anyways, just for discussion, let's imagine they simply didn't notice or put any importance whatsoever on the ships). So if you see a set of rocks on Mars, you see them, but don't notice anything special about them, they are just a casual arrangement of items, with no discernible pattern according to what we are used to or what we are familiar to or how we decode the world according to what is important (mostly what is indirectly associated with potential danger or pain/pleasure denotations and such).

So maybe the rocks are really alive and all talking to each other, we would never and could never know as their language and worldview, as an alternative form of Observer, or Processor is too different from us, there is no point of contact at all between their Mind and Existence and Experience and ours, they are totally alien to us. Would you ever know ? Could you ever know without becoming even somewhat similar to them, the rocks ?

Check out:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=172411

I AM THE OVERMAN (as imagined by Frank Zappa).

12-21-2012 12:1212121212 .... pm THE END IS NEAR

Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Which Case ?





Re: Free Physics (like Free Jazz)

Postby nameta9 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:54 pm
Which Case ?

The three possible cases with Physics - Mathematics:

1) Even if you had infinite precision of initial conditions, positions of particles, velocities (precision with more than 1000 decimal points aka 10^1000 while presently the most precise measurement is about 15 decimal points aka 10^15 ?) and even if you had all of the exact formulas and even if you had the exact analytical solution to all of the equations, partial differential equations describing all physical systems, the entire universe, you still couldn't predict the next configuration of the system, there would always be a discrepancy. In this case, the message would be that Mathematics, Logic and the entire program of Scientific Research has a fundamental limit, no matter what, reality is outside of our models, no matter what, there is not a one to one correspondence of reality with any kind of logical construction, linguistics - symbolic construction of it in our mind, or in any mind for that matter, or in any contraption for that matter, even trillions of supercomputers, etc. This would mean that reality, the universe, matter, energy is disjoint from us, 100 % independent from us, completely alien from us. At most we have some good approximations, some lucky shots at guessing some patterns, our formulas are simply matter and reality making fun of us and playing jokes on us just for the fun if it (just like god makes fun of us and plays jokes on us with the impossibility to determine his existence, it is a matter of faith, hence everyone will beat up everyone else because they all have different faiths, etc.), matter and physics and reality make some things look logical and correspond to some formulas, tricking us into believing that the program, the logical analysis and discovery of patterns will lead us to even more precision and formulas (like the "language of the universe is written in mathematics" and such nonsense) only to hose us and fool us as soon as we try to solve the simplest problems like the simple 3 body problem (imagine trying to solve the million body problem contained in a glass of water or an ocean wave form and such).

2) If you had infinite precision of initial conditions, positions of particles, velocities (precision with more than 1000 decimal points aka 10^1000 while presently the most precise measurement is about 15 decimal points aka 10^15 ?) and you had all of the exact formulas and even had the exact analytical solution to all of the equations, partial differential equations describing all physical systems, the entire universe, you could predict the next configuration of the system, there would always be no discrepancy. In this case the message would be that reality, matter, physics, the universe has a one to one correspondence with logical - symbolic - mathematical models of it in our mind, is quantized according to discrete and precise patterns, is simply a computer program in essense, hence you could create new programs and they would be 100 % reality, no matter what, you could invent virtual realities, nay anything you want, and the reality, and truth and the essense of that would be exactly as real as any physical reality, there is no metaphysical or abstract property making reality disjoint or independent from us. Of course the problem here would be to find all of the millions of values for particles and electrons (all of the electrons in the sun, and their exact position up to 1000 decimal points, and exact velocities up to 1000 decimal points and the exact analytical formulas and solutions to all of the equations, and so forth extended to the entire universe, all of the particles of the universe and such). And since this is hard to do (and then why stop at 1000 decimal points ? why not 100000 and then 100 trillion decimal points, there is no constraint saying which decimal point is the limit since if there was a constraint it would mean that the universe is a digital machine, quantized according to precise values) it can never be verified.

3) You can determine the exact configuration of the universe (all of it, every particle and rock and event in it) to any precision you want by a handful of differential equations having exact analytical solutions and applicable to all and needing only 10 or 20 decimal points of precision for most particles (not even all). In this case, reality is a 100 % virtual reality, a machine, a puny machine with no metaphysical properties to it, we are an excess of it, we are excess capacity compared to what reality can deliver, etc. The problem here is that no one has discovered the secret formula to predict all, but it may be possible.

The real solution is probably that reality is irrelevant to us as a subset configuration of the universe, we are a machine that creates, has and explores problems only according to its own input -> process -> out, we simply talk to ourselves in the end and don't need to know or have the precise configuration or next state of the universe. In this case, the entire program of scientific research is mostly metaphysics and philosophy, we just need to reach a level of self manipulation of our mind to create infinite pleasure loops or similar, or infinite complexity virtual realities that satisfy a given configuration of Brain Style and neural circuits, then the entire program of scientific research would be done and over with no matter how much we discovered or not or what would be left to discover.

Of course the Instant Singularity may have a hybrid form, a really wacky form with us having somewhat modified minds, somewhat weird societies and activities (all handling smart phones ?) a mix between input and output and activities and all kinds of things (new bodies, sense programs, hybrid Man Rocket Contraptions traveling Space or such ?) it doesn't necessarily entail modifying our brains completely, although and Instant Singularity will always be just one example amongst trillions of possible others, there is no predetermined destiny or path of progress in this, any event and configuration will do, there is no external metaphysical reality waiting to be discovered, we will invent the reality on the go, as we progress, any reality...

I AM THE OVERMAN (as imagined by Frank Zappa).

12-21-2012 12:1212121212 .... pm THE END IS NEAR

Wednesday, October 10, 2012

reference

From:

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/10/empty-pagentry.html

From

http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=179812&start=25

and

http://instantsingularity3.blogspot.it


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Splashing Brains

Splashing Brains

Planet sized contraptions containing thousands of trillions of Brain Accelerators criss crossing each other for the entire volume of the planet with untold high energies (accelerating all kinds of units and entities all together, all splashed together, car engines, rockets, brains, computers, mixing and converting everything into everything else creating brain - engine - rocket hybrids that are experiencing and thinking new lives, and creating new creations of matter expressing itself and its new experience set, a new potential experience set), crashing and splashing thousands of trillions of Brains together, creating a momentary new Hybrid brain made up of many brains, all the signals mixed and merged and confused, all of the units and delimitations mixed and combined, sense signals become thought systems become memory segments, trillions of logical thoughts connecting and disconnecting, trillions of emotions and new experience sets, space and time deconstructed, reality deconstructed and reconstructed in untold number of new ways, just imagine two brains colliding at extremely high speed, just like particle accelerators and how they splash together creating a new hybrid machine, experience set, a new universe, and now extend that to thousands of trillions of brains all collidings and splashing together at high speed and now extend that to a planet sized contraption with thousands of trillions of criss crossing brain accelerators (and put in all kinds of items in the accelerators, V8 engines, chips, skyscrapers, you name it, make it all collide and splash together and mix, the signal becomes the brain, the brain becomes the signals the delimitations are constantly changed and assigned differently time and space expand and contract locally according to how the instantaneous contraption lives an entire experience set, an entire lifetime, a universe time, local time expanding to trillions of years, but the global time of the instantaneous brain mix contraption is only a picosecond and so forth.

And then within this completely filled and densed up planet full of splashing brains and colliding brains (together with all kinds of other configurations of matter, like chips and TVs and transistors and ships and jet planes and so forth, cities all colliding and creating new thinking machine hybrids having bricks and steel slabs inside of them and cylinders and atomic bombs exploding inside of them and so forth, the crazier the better), a Brainium Matter going from solid state to liquid to gas to plasma and back again and all mixed up creating entire civilizations and entire universes, untold many, and then throw into it and make them explode thousands of trillions of atomic bombs and make it jump around even more wildly, the crazier the better, the wilder the better, matter showing off what it can really do, break away from the past, the peacock showing all of its colors, Dragon shining with all values known...

I AM THE OVERMAN.

12-21-2012 12:1212121212 .... pm THE END IS NEAR

Fighting

Fighting

And yet, that is what the fighting is all about: the independence of chunks of matter trying to become the master judge, the reference system, each chunk of matter (person) cannot believe that their judgments, their subjectivity is not absolute, is relative, is irrelevant, that all of the rest of the universe is independent from itself (the independence itself of chunks of matter compared to other chunks is shocking, is unbelievable, cannot be conceived, and each chunk is infinitely independent and disjoint from a contiguous chunk, etc.) hence the fight, the fight for what is right and each person (chunk of matter) thinks that it is right "objectively", "absolutely" (or even doesn't care, but is forced to fight, is forced to judge and compare constantly (and the other (independent ?) judgment is our god, the other person judging us is like god judging us, it is what all of the effort and labor is for in the end...even if it is only an imagined and imaginary make believe abstract judgment...), to evaluate, always with a background assumption that the judgment, that objective, particular judgment is absolute and objective, even if it admits to itself that it is relative, it is hardwired to pretend to be absolute, nay, it is absolute to itself within its own subjectivity or such, that is what the fighting is all about, how to establish who is right and wrong, who's judgment is the correct one, who's choice is the correct one and hence the idea of creating a "movement" or a group of people all thinking the same way against another group of people thinking in opposition or differently, the war, the wars are hence always based on the fact that there is no absolute, only relative - subjective judgments of quirky minds that want to force themselves to be right and hold the only truth against those that are wrong etc. And the pain/pleasure inflicted on others is a demonstration of a fake absolute system, as being right just because matter allows some chunks of itself to punish and have power over other chunks of itself, just to pretend, if only temporarily to be right and have achieved some kind of absolute, but the only absolute ever achieved is the power relationship, is the event (information relationship ? the desperate attempt of confirming an imaginary absolute begets anger and war and fights, we can't believe that we are irrelevant and subjective, that we can always be contradicted, opposed, always demolished in a jiffy just because, all of the independent chunks of matter and events and signals forcing us to interact, the very concept of independence (meaning zero power over other entities - or imaginary power over other entities as long as the other entities abide but they can always change their mind in a jiffy and oppose you) is absurd, etc.), A hits B, end of story.

Then again, if Matter can think up of modified Brains, new Modified Man Brains, new organizations of matter that can experience reality, the universe (but there isn't one universe, but a never ending array according to how each Observer is configured and Designed and each Observer can be configured and Designed in an untold number of ways, after all just 100 numbers hardwiring some pain/pleasure/emotion/memory/sense circuits in a modified mind can be combined in 10^100 different ways, each way being a completely different being, Observer, hence man brain, hence Experience Set, hence universe, totally different universe, with nothing in common with a contiguous universe (really observer interaction set with itself, or better yet, the set of experiences and interactions matter may perform upon itself in essence).

Hence if Matter can think it up (even though it is only a chunk of Matter in the form of a person - me) then it can construct it, it can make it real, it can assign anything, no matter how far out as absolutely real. Matter thinking up how to modify itself, the Observer thinking up of how to modify its own structure and brain and circuits is already the singularity achieved, the infinite recursion of itself upon itself.

Now, that I have exposed the truth, you realize that I am god, nay, trillions of times more powerful than god, I am trillions of times more than all, trillions of times beyond the universe, I am all, a small particle of dust in my mind is the entire universe, I construct mathematics, I am always beyond matter and space and time and logic: in short

I AM THE OVERMAN.

12-21-2012 12:1212121212 .... pm THE END IS NEAR

Translations

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We are always translating the unfamiliar into the familiar, we are always trying to explain, when the explanation is just the attempt to construct something familiar, something we can relate to, something that we can decode and understand in our language and mind and according to the repetitive patterns that we are used to but especially according to the repetitive patterns our neural circuits in our mind have created over the years, the library of repetitive patterns that then become what is reasonable, what is logical and correct but only because we already know them, we already understand them, really we already understand ourselves, our own paintings and pictures of reality, our own constructions that should always match reality. But that is the mistake: we take it for granted that our constructions are really the outside reality, are really the truth, we take ourselves as some kind of absolute observer that is the measure of all things, that has the language and logic and decodings available to explain everything and anything: but a funny thing happens, this is exactly true and is exactly what we do since whatever we see, whatever the phenomena, whatever the experimental results we get, we will always be able to interpret them in our reference systems, we will always be able to decode them no matter what, we will always create a model no matter what, since even if we only had 2 bits available to decode the world and anything, we would just map whatever we see into the only two bits we always have anyways and by doing this we will always explain it anyways, we actually explain things even before they are explained, we create the understanding and explanation even before we choose what sequence of symbols and what combination of words, elements, formulas we will use to explain something from the outset, from the beginning, even before the research is performed since everything will have to end up being positioned in our grids anyways, we can always force anything to be in any position in our grids and then exclaim that it has been explained. We think of ourselves as some kind of master independence unit from reality, as some kind of abstract absolute reference mind looking into the universe from the outside of it, as we are looking at it from outside of it, from some abstract absolute reference point just like god when in all truth we are simply always looking at ourselves, at our own mind, at are own decodings and languages and neural circuits and how they are always interacting with the flow of signals and symbols coming from the outside independent world, independent from us and our control, as everything really is based on this independence of one thing compared to another, as something not under the control of something else, etc.

Case in point, in quantum physics we cannot exactly pinpoint down how electrons behave, so we just assign them a combination of properties and a combination of words and concepts to make them appear familiar, to make them seem reasonable and logical, and this can be done in an infinite number of ways, but we choose a simple model by saying that the electron is both a wave and a particle and can be in two points at the same time, end of story. We explained it, we now know it, we have conquered it but what we really did is just translate a series of events and experiments and functions into something that sounds reasonable and sounds right and is comforting and is similar to all of the many other repetitive patterns in the library of repetitive patterns already present in our mind. Maybe we could have said that the electron is not moving and is not still but is in some other state, but still the explanation is always an attempt at relating it to something we can somehow grasp, but maybe there really are no explanations, there really is no sequence of ideas and symbols and concepts that explain what happens at the elementary particle level, but since we think of ourselves as an absolute reference system observer who thinks he must know and will know everything, some explanation will always be found. But what should always be said is that the explanation found and the science created and the knowledge obtained is always relative, since it is always based on an arbitrarily designed observer, since it is always based on a quirky observer that is the exact contradiction of anything general or absolute, nay, the observer is only ever a complex ensemble of completely random quirky units and elements and items without any absolute value and with just some repetitive patterns inside of itself amongst a sea of non repetitive random and chaotic events and signals.

So then, even if we had only two concepts on our mind, a hammer and a nail, we can translate and explain everything according to these two concepts anyways, the electron is the nail the forces is the hammer, everything is a hammer for a nail, everything is a nail for a hammer, everything we explain will always be familiar, or even unfamiliar, it doesn't matter, we will always find a combination of symbols, and words and concepts that we will always find to describe and explain and predict what will happen.

But we are simply inventing the explanations always, we are simply translating a series of inputs into something we can recognize and understand and then manipulate in our mind and find the correspondence between the manipulations in our mind and the events we are observing, we can always find a one to one correlation between a sequence of symbols and a sequence of events (translating the events, the signals, the observations into a description, a language, a mathematical formula and anything else in which we are comfortable working with in the comfort of our mind that has abstracted away reality and matter and created a simpler information set and information relationships between elements and seeing how much reality obeys our decodings) and most important of all, exactly if and when we cannot find a correlation we will simply invent one, we will design a new correlation which is the easiest thing you can do and affirm that as the new truth, as a new truth amongst an infinite number of truths since there are an infinite number of combinations of sequences you can associate with anything else, any reality, any observations and experiments and such.

So the conclusion of all of this is that we are really always simply talking to ourselves no matter what, we simply decode any signals and external realities into our concepts and categories, so reality is simply how the Observer is designed and what concepts and deocdings and mechanisms the Observer has in his mind, and scientific research is always just the process of creating as close of a one to one correspondence between what we observer and experiments and our concepts and decoding.

But as you can see, there is no real absolute reference system in all of this, just an observer modeling the world according to how he is designed and how the signals of the world interact with him, any other design of an observer will create completely different modelings of a world, completely different universes, a completely different reality.

The observer and his design is the universe essentially, there really is no outside universe, it is the observer that is really the measure of all things, but the observer fools himself into thinking that his measurement is some kind of absolute measurement of reality, is in a vacuum, is outside of reality, when in all truth, the observer is the reality itself, the observer is creating his own reality always, but is always subject to the play of independent outside forces (and there are also independent inside forces) that force him to further decode and further measure that which cannot be measured at all since all events in the end are random and casual and are without any decodings until some observer decides to decode them and fix them in a library of concepts.

One area where we clearly see that our grids and decodings and explanations will never map onto reality is in the social and economic sciences: no matter how hard we try to manipulate and predict and model the economy or social phenomena we never achieve any possible progress at all since things will always go their own way, randomly, chaotically no matter what, we will always have the same "problems" over and over again no matter what: and this is because the independence and conflicts of the actors between themselves in these systems cannot be decoded into a linear logic, into a simple coherent cause and effect mechanism since there is no cause and effects, just so many independent actors fighting each other over and over again for any reason at all, especially for no reasons at all, always changing the configuration of the social and economic systems always creating winners and losers and problems for the losers and solutions for the winners and losers want to find solutions that are not and will never be there because the only solution is to fight back and become a winner and defeat the previous winner end of story. And yet politicans, sociologists economists philosophers keep on fooling themselves and everyone that they have the correct decodings, the correct interpretations, the correct linear logic and discourse and explanations about something which is totally outside of any of this since it is not even a system, a coherent system, it is not even an entity, just millions of wild and random play of forces interacting and going nowhere at all.

And yet all of the grand explanations seem always so scientific, everyone accepts them as a possible truth, Marx theory, or the Adam Smith theory of economies or Freud theories of psychology and on and on when these are all just simply inventions, one to one correspondences with imaginary abstract mental models that think the thing they are modeling is a coherent entity.

And notice how the emphasis is more and more on social conflicts, lawyers, software, apps and the applications of technologies that are simply talking to themselves, computers are units that are a language system of an external mind talking to itself always, a closed system, science is going in the direction of creating ever more artificial language and social based entities and further away from interacting directly with matter in a sense: we used to play with transistors and oscilloscopes confronting ourselves with the independence of matter from us, now we play with apps which are totally social constructions, we prefer to talk to ourselves (or others, which is the same thing) instead of talking to matter directly and measuring and interacting with analog circuits and transistors and oscilloscopes and such, everything is software now, everything is even being put more and more into language systems and decodings and even before you can interact with it. Hence just skipping it all and creating new brain designs and minds and wild wicked new neural circuits is the only way to go forward anymore, all else is expired, done with, we must now crack open skulls and throw wild signals and chemicals inside of them, like crazy, like free jazz and free physics.

So then manipulating and creating new Mind designs, new brain designs is scientific and correct, is real progress, we need to produce planet sized brains full of particle accelerators criss crossing, and exploding them and throwing atom bombs in this planet sized brain and trillions of computer and events and signals happening in this planet sized (or maybe even an atom sized brain ? a microbrain ?) brain and live through all of the experiences, the wild and wicked experiences such a brain could undergo and express....


12-21-2012 12:1212121212 .... pm THE END IS NEAR

Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Quantum Computer

From:

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/10/empty-pagentry.html



Quantum Computer
So they say that the quantum computer can do an infinite number of operations, hence then you can simulate and create any virtual reality or universe: but then the only constraint and limit at that point, since then all is possible, would be what the Observer wants to do, what could he possibly want when everything can be achieved ? (internal pleasure loops ? metaphysical engine searching infinite abstractions ?) anything could be, but the limit is in the process that generates the configuration of matter as an end point, as a result, and hence the constraint of matter to pass through some kind of Natural Evolution, some building process that creates the new brain, universe, mind experience set, Information Relationship sets, whatever. So the Observer will be forced to look at himself in the mirror finally and understand that all constraints and limits are only within himself, within his own structure, his fundamental design, so then he will have to modify his design, his brain structure, the construction of the Observer will have to modify himself to obtain ever more, since all that he can obtain by modifying the "Outside World" has been and can be obtained.

So the Observer himself is the limits of Science and Progress, but there is no intrinsic limitation on how matter can be organized, it can be a planet sized complex brain full of chemicals and circuits and particle accelerators, computers, chips, you name it any possible end result (but matter can be configured as the start point and end point in any possible way, and any possible path can be travelled, you can always force impossible paths just for the fun of it) , but the constraint and limitation is on the process generating the observer, the natural evolution, the path that matter must pass through in order to obtain an end point configuration, but the start point and end points can be any at all, the paths the matter goes through can be any at all (even respecting the laws of physics 8 but this path is not necessary, you can assign matter to be configured all at once, in one chunk, the Instant Singularity (and even fool it that it occurred through a process by creating fake evidence and memories and such), you imagine it, so you can imagine just one bit being the observer of an infinite universe, or the universe itself observing and manipulating itself and anything in between, and the mismatch between parts of it to create independence and opposing will powers, infinite differences between chunks of the same brain creating infinite independence and so on, all kinds of configurations of matter as an Observer Universe set (but which is which ? when does one merge into the other ? and who is who and so forth, all of the delimitations, combinations, all kinds of weird things).

So the process creating an end point seems to be too improbable, can't be figured out, can't be imagined (just like all of the millions of steps from creating the first living cell to man, a long complex process, a building plan so to say), but you can just assign matter instantly to be a configuration and skip any building process (or even create all kinds of very fast or very slow incredible building processes where matter can go through all kinds of weird intermediate evolutionary steps, like first you where a skyscraper, and then a cadillac and then a man and then a star and then an new brain, (and you can imagine so many intermediate steps and processes and forces creating that very quirky path, and all within the laws of physics and without any real intrinsic limitations of how matter can be configured) a funky wicked build process and plan even through all kinds of extremely improbable play of forces but even respecting the laws of physics, but even not respecting the laws of physics, after all you can just create a one shot assignment of matter to be in a certain way, just one step, the instant singularity step and so forth.

12-21-2012 12:1212121212 .... pm THE END IS NEAR
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Thursday, October 4, 2012

Beyond Moving and Still



From:

http://instantsingularity1.blogspot.it

From:

http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=180135&start=50

and

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/09/in-full-flight.html




Re: "Poof There It Is" -- how do you argue against it?

Postby nameta9 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:42 am
James S Saint wrote:But if you redefine energy such that potential energy is to be "negative", then you are saying that positive energy converts to negative energy when anything stops moving. So as long as everything is moving, the universe is positive.

The balance of the moving and the non-moving is not likely to equal zero, especially when you consider that movement is relative. The same object has positive energy if you are moving past it. But if you stop beside it, it suddenly has negative energy.


Take a scale: if 0 is still - not moving ; and 1 is moving (doesn't matter how fast or how much), then what is 2 ? what is 3 ? what is 2.43 ? what is 15 ? what is - 4566.78 ? (and 0.45 doesn't mean moving more or less or fast or slower, but some kind of abstract property that is completely different from either moving and being still but related to them in an imaginary abstract scale with wild new funky properties that are outside of the possibility to model for our neural circuits and our logic and our brain style, etc.) remember, we are not talking about how much something is moving, but simply an abstract new property or entity or relationship (but those words are just very gross approximations to what I want to think, something like more than 10 dimensional space, or the square root of negative numbers, but much more impossible to imagine and abstract and impossible to relate to in any way, so much so, that no mathematical relationships can and must be established past moving or still (but you can always invent them anyways, just to create ever more abstract ideas and entities and systems, nay, trillions of ever more abstract scales and ideas and concepts) etc.) the most abstract as possible (the most impossible and counter intuitive concepts) to define moving compared to not moving, still compared to not still: so you extend the concepts beyond what we can conceive, you extend them beyond any possibility for us to imagine them at all, but nonetheless define them anyways, make believe they exist anyways, create them anyways and identify them as something new, albeit impossible to imagine, but new, and you can keep on extending on an imaginary scale other concepts, ever more so, even though you have no idea what they are, etc.

How can there be something that is not still and not moving, but doing something else, or being in some other state that is neither moving or still, but an extension, an abstract extension of these 2 concepts ? That is Free Physics, break the boundaries, break away from the past, beak away from anything you can possibly imagine, invent the most abstract entities and properties and relationships possible, and create new universes with all of this...



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