dragon wrote:Another problem here is the individual''s capacity to see what is there. For example, when Captain Cook first arrived in the Antipodes, some of the natives within view of the shore simply did not see the ships. That is, the ships were so alien to them that their minds just rejected them. So, can we be sure (a) that our minds would not reject sight of some beings that are too alien and (b) that scientists minds are the best prepared to rejister the existence of the trully alien - as opposed, say, to the minds of science fiction writers, but of course it is scientists who are the front line position, in the field, telling us what does and does not exist?
Maybe what you want to say is:
For example, when Captain Cook first arrived in the Antipodes, some of the natives within view of the shore simply did not NOTICE the ships.
They saw the ships but didn't notice anything special about them, maybe it was just like background noise or such (although I am not really sure if a human couldn't notice the patterns, the size and other features of a ship that truly standout, but anyways, just for discussion, let's imagine they simply didn't notice or put any importance whatsoever on the ships). So if you see a set of rocks on Mars, you see them, but don't notice anything special about them, they are just a casual arrangement of items, with no discernible pattern according to what we are used to or what we are familiar to or how we decode the world according to what is important (mostly what is indirectly associated with potential danger or pain/pleasure denotations and such).
So maybe the rocks are really alive and all talking to each other, we would never and could never know as their language and worldview, as an alternative form of Observer, or Processor is too different from us, there is no point of contact at all between their Mind and Existence and Experience and ours, they are totally alien to us. Would you ever know ? Could you ever know without becoming even somewhat similar to them, the rocks ?
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