Friday, November 29, 2013

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http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=184626

Another thing: the vote is on basing the highest pay not being 12 times more than the lowest (not 1200).

Anyways the real class struggle is always amongst the lower classes, between the poor and the relatively poorer people, the real class struggle is between middle class and poor and so on, always between the lower classes anyways. The rich don't fight the poor directly, that don't have to, they already all won.

So you have the middle class home owner that wants to rent a house and asks for 1,000 dollars a month rent from the poor low wage slob, so the fight is between the middle class home renter and the poor slob that has to give his entire paycheck to rent and so on.

It is set up so weak people fight between themselves, it is a fight between have and have nots, and now the middle class home owner may need that rent money because he is now unemployed and so on.

A constant struggle and fight, all against all, all fighting an imaginary resource scarcity war when there are no resource scarcities, only an old fashion idea of still having to work when work is no longer needed.

who cares about the rich ?


Re: Swiss vote on limiting top pay to 1200 times that of low

Postby nameta9 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:54 am
First off, I can't stand this moralistic stance, this "punish the rich" morality and idea, this idiotic envy based, " oh I am poor and I want the rich to make less money" crappy BS idea!

Totally wrong approach, totally wrong from every point of view, serves just to distract, confuse and fool the losers and poorer people: what they should enforce is a maximum amount of money the basics should cost compared to the minimum wage: this would really get something done, not the envy, "oh the rich boss makes so much" BS that serves to make people fight each other over totally insignificant things in the larger scheme of things.

So given a minimum wage of say 500 dollars worldwide, a rent for a decent home (3 bedroom + kitchen and well built and in a good area!) shall not be priced more than 100 dollars a month, health care should not be priced more than 50 dollars a month for all possible needs and so forth, really kick them all where it really hurts, in home prices, real estate prices, rents and health care prices, and so on, running water, electricity and transportation shall not be priced more than 50 dollars a month, a complete meal 3 times a day shall not be pirced more than 50 dollars a month and so on.

This would be much more important than the idiotic, stupid, envy based idea of limiting how much the bosses or rich make, what a bunch of crap! And in fact who proposes this wants to protect the status quo, wants to make the poor feel as if they are actually getting something in return when in all truth they are getting nothing, being fooled and all the basics cost way past their minimum salary worldwide and so forth.

What should be stated and believed in is very simple: the rich, the bosses, the capitalists, the corrupt, the lucky or whatever or who even cares! can make as much as they want, can make trillions (which they will continue to make anyways, there are millions of ways to gain that cash "not paid in salary" anyways, to hide it, to get money in stealth mode and so on) as long as the minimum wage allows the poor loser making it to rent a home and buy all the basics without running out of money.

How it stands today is that just a rent of a one room crap house costs more than 500 dollars a month worldwide, anywhere on earth, the minimum wage finishes the first day of the month when you pay rent, this is what is really a scandal and really important to stress, but people are all just to stupid to see this, they prefer being envious and fighting the rich making so much.

And then who cares, an economy and peoples should be free to pay whoever they want as much as they want, this is totally irrelevant, if person A feels that person B must be paid a billion dollars a year, who cares, who are you to poke your nose into it ? mind your own business!


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Thursday, November 28, 2013

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Re: Stone Chrome Video

Postby nameta9 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:39 pm
CALLING ALL ARTISTS! CALLING ALL ARTISTS! Make those drawings, make them wild and incredible, make those diagrams and pictures and drawings of the internals of New Mind Systems and Brain Structures as incredible and fantastic as possible, use your imagination and fantasy as much as possible, make it run wild, the sky is the limit, you can do it man, just do it, don't be afraid to become a little baby again and have fun, imagine how incredible those new mind circuits can be, so many new symbols and diagrams and ideas, a never ending array of new ideas and you can imagine a never ending array of new Lives, Universes, Experience Sets and Universes with completely different and wild new laws and non laws of physics...

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Stone Chrome Video

Postby nameta9 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:29 pm
Stone Chrome Video

So science has nothing new or better to offer anymore, we have exhausted this universe, this mode of being, we must now start designing new experiences from the inside out, from the crux of the Observing and Experiencing Contraption, the Brain System, new Mind Machines, New Information Machines processing Matter Interactions between themselves, talking to themselves and so forth.

So write that book with thousands of pages of extremely intricate circuit designs having so many cool new components, transistors having thousands of legs, hypertransistors with spiritual soul functions incorporated, so many new symbols and designs and patterns, so many new signals, intricate and incredible, mysterious, never ending schematics associated to incredible Mind and Universe Machines, generating new universes and experiences, very complex, and a design of on the page of the book means another design elsewhere and so forth forever, designs of designs, recursive designs of circuits, with so many incredible devices interacting, creating worlds and lives and experiences and so forth.



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Thursday, November 14, 2013

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We Are Black Holes ...

Postby nameta9 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:10 pm
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From:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=184281

We are the way the universe overcomes the "Laws of Physics": we are the points of the universe where it relinquishes the Iron Fist Prison of the Laws of Physics, we are the singularities, the black holes, the volumes of Space and Time where these concepts and all other logical concepts are no longer valid. Our simple random choices and free will, what we do moment by moment follows no laws except random laws we decide to make exist at the moment for any or no reasons at all, we are actually the points where "Free Physics" can actually instantiate itself, we are where all kinds of random, quirky, illogical and senseless "cause and effects" can be invented for obscure, intractable personal reasons or models or ideas a civilization, the human race self programs itself to have and so forth.

I decided to write these symbols on this page: what logic could have ever predicted this, what equations, who could have guessed it ? and what other new sequence of symbols will be written where and for what reason any place in the universe ? and so forth and so on.

And so it is with all the actions and reactions, the interlocking interactions humans have between themselves, all the fights, thoughts, struggles, wars (who could have predicted, in that exact moment and place the explosion of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima if an alien race where looking at the planet from far away and noticing this effect ? how could they ever know why or how ? and so forth).

So if just one human, one Man Brain one person is a point of space time where physics is no longer valid thanks to that person's free will, then imagine hundreds or billions of people interacting, the laws of physics are no longer operating at all if only as a background, a stage upon which the real events which are all arbitrary and random and a fluke are taking place, and where all the real events, exactly because they pertain to humans and the effect they have on their pain/pleasure circuits, the only ones that really define reality occur.

So being that the "Economy" is based on these "elementary particles" which follow no Laws of Physics, nothing can really ever be said about it, it is totally unpredictable, outside of the sphere of science, any science.

But then again, the laws of physics break down as soon as you try to predict the motion of three interacting particles, the three body problem has no solution, so the universe and reality is essentially lawless, has no laws, only some vague laws that we use to format reality according to our mental models, so that we can use it to speak to ourselves essentially, it is all a game of dependent and independent parts, surprises, and control, logical segments flung upon the world, but imagine how many new logical segments can be flung upon all you see, all that exists, according to all kinds of paths and according to all kinds of observers, the tree is an observer and the logical segment is a car tire to interact with a sun and so forth.



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Re: We Are Black Holes ...

Postby nameta9 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:07 pm
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Re: Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

Postby wendy52 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:03 pm
nameta9 wrote:Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

We are all just a moment away from Total Oblivion, just a heart beat away from disappearing forever and for good instantaneously - by stroke, heart attack, earthquake, sudden death, etc. So now what happens to our huge, elaborate, completely totalizing and saturating mental construction of the world ? ... of all the rules, logic, the memories, the entire structure of the universe we have created in our mind to navigate it, a complex incredible structure made up of rules, and thought paths, laws learned, patterns recognized, all of the repetitive patterns discovered and translated and formatted into laws of physics, laws of living and behavior, social conventions and so forth and so on constructed during a lifetime lasting decades ? ...

It all disappears in a jiffy, all the laws where worthless, you disappeared instantly anyways, the repetitive patterns we have so much faith in were useless, the logic and rules false, irrelevant, fake, made up, a bluff, a deception. And so it is with all of our memories and rules and the entire constructions of our mind, all of our memories are a liability as much as they are an asset in that they condition us into believing too much in them, the memories and knowledge condition us to falsify constantly and continuously reality, in order to make it abide and converge to our models and expectations, that we think are so solid and real and confirmed: nothing further from the truth, they are zero, nothing.

This is because a Mind Brain is simply a processor that adapts its neural networks and rules according to the inputs it receives and creates a complete set of laws, it completely self programs itself according to a program imposed by nature, reality and itself and so forth. But there is really nothing behind it:

Just because we are used to seeing things evolve and slowly develop, a story line makes us think reality is more than a simple instantaneous input, reaction, output, a point like event disconnected from all past, future present and space, a nothing that exists for a moment that tends to last zero, a sequence of zero time duration moments and pictures creating a fake story and so on.

But you can imagine a universe, a processor, a mind, a modified mind that is instantaneously programmed with all of the memories and a given life story and that mind thinks it existed for a long time when in all truth it was assigned instantly, and so it is with all reality, Matter self defines itself in a moment, creates an entire universe from zero and then makes itself think that it evolved and had a story line. And so forth and all of the combinations in between, a universe of constantly changing instantaneous Information Relationships reciprocally defining themselves and creating reality and then disappearing, every moment a new universe, a new big bang, watch out for the next moment, you may disappear.

And so all laws and logic are a never ending deception and illusion that works for just some time and then is useless and worthless for eternity and so forth. Of course all contradictions accepted and are operating as usual.


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Combustion = sound breaking
Sound breaks and falls into itself, disappearing.
The Universe = disappearance

Sound left light = disappeared
Sound disappears

What is left.......light

or

Sound = combustion
Combustion = self consuming
Self consuming = sound disappearing
Sound disappearing = disappearance = smaller and smaller as it disappears

Particle = on a journey into disappearance, not death, not organic

Human being = non particle we are not "self consumed" - we do not disappear, we die

Scientist = illogical idiot who never looked to see, tried to cause us to be consumed
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Re: Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

Postby Silhouette » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:36 pm
This is just one of many well-established arguments against Modernism.

Objective and/or universal and/or eternal "truth" is nothing more than a consensus of subjective attempts to make sense of experience. Yes, it is subjective and not objective, yes it is individual and not universal, and yes it is changing/inconstant and not eternal.

It's just something that works, which is all science and logic have ever been good for, but it is all they need to be good for.

Existentialism has already covered this, and Post-Modernism has taken it to some philosophically important limits.

Modernist truth is no longer the question, except to naive and philosophically stunted minds. Truth is just an option, which many still take, and it has its uses. The fact that it's merely a subjective truth that it's subjective truth afterall just sounds like an objective truth to their subjective minds.
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Re: Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

Postby Mowk » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:40 pm
All that has been debunked is self. :shrug: bravo
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Re: Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

Postby nameta9 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:06 pm
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Re: Government is not Economy

Postby nameta9 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:20 am
"notice how nobody even touches the issue of the national debt? That is because there is no intent to pay it back."

There is no "debt", only excess capacity, fee wealth, extra cash, extra money that the Technological Economy generates automatically: if it weren't so then the debt could have never been created in the first place, the debt really means excess cash that a few have and can loan it out to others and since the system generates so much extra cash automatically without any "work" to back it up, since it isn't work that must back it up, (by the way, "work" has absolutely nothing to do with how the economy really operates) since there is no longer any relationship of wealth to work since decades, since the wealth - money - extra cash is only a proxy of how much extra real wealth the system generates by using huge economies of scale, huge expenditure of energy, huge networks of transportation, electricity, communications, automation, technology and so forth.

It is all a wrong psychology game expecting the economies to grow and ever more work to be generated in order to pay back the debts, but the economies not only can't grow with this old "work for it" mentality, the technological economy does away with jobs as a side effect, and while it does away with jobs it keeps on increasing the real wealth of societies that are being concentrated ever more so in the same hands .

And in fact don't you notice that no one is asking for the money back anyways, this is because they don't really need the money, the money accumulated and then handed out to others in the form of debt was and is free cash and doesn't have to never be paid back since it makes no difference, it would be paid back mostly to super rich who could care less for that money, they don't need it and don't even know they have it, it is irrelevant for them, hence the debts can keep on increasing forever.

The psychological mistake and the hidden manipulating agenda all the economists and powers that be pratice is that to make you believe that the debt - wealth - money is real, can "run out", there is ony so much available, "you must work for it", "you must deserve it", someone is acting badly, someone is morally accountable and everyone loves this morality police, this blaming someone else on how bad they are and how much debt they generated on how they don't deserve it: but this just helps to confuse people, confuse their ideas, mix it all up with emotionality, blame, morality, "money will run out"; there is only so much and it will all run out, the resource scarcity myths and so forth: nothing further from the truth, we have loads of real wealth available, enough to give it all out for free to all, and the Technological Economy will keep on generating loads of more forever, the debts are just a joke on you and everyone else, to play morality, blame games and make you all fight each other in vain.

And in truth it is all a fight to redistribute an ever increasing stack of money differently, everyone wants a bigger piece of the pie, it is just a fighting game that has no need or necessity to exists, only a stone age mentality that can't come to grips with what the economy is now today under the powers of technology.

Free wealth and cash just doesn't seem to make sense to a civilization that has always lived dirt poor until technology kicked in: we are just in inertia mode, not knowing what the truth is, always believing in 18th century models that are now obsolete, none of it is operating anymore ("hard work", "deserve it", "things run out" and so forth, all false - obsolete concepts).



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Re: Government is not Economy

Postby creative » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:24 am
The issue with government spending is, as we have learned over the past two decades, is that there are really no controls to stop unlimited spending thus bankrupting nations. We have already seen how governments have bankrupt Greece, Italy, Spain, Ireland, Iceland, etc. The flow of money goes to the ultra-rich (the top 10%) while the burden of paying debts falls in the laps of those who have jobs or businesses and are forced to shoulder more or more of the debt burden.

For all intent and purposes, the U.S. and Europe is bankrupt but is kept afloat by the the Central banks who keep printing money (devaluing paper currency and savings) in order to pay for increasing debt. The net flow of money is to the top 1% who basically control the governments and create the laws that insure their ever increasing share of all wealth. The top 1% in the U.S. now own about 40% of the wealth which is the greatest concentration of wealth in history. Ironically, the greatest boon to the top 1% in the U.S. has been the exorbitant government spending which has been for the most part a boon for the ultra-wealthy who net the most.
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Re: Government is not Economy

Postby insightfoul » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:54 am
Exactly, there is no moral accountability in this democratically corrupted society.

So the morally corrupt essentially can bankrupt the nation, pull everything down with it, and then blame the opposing party when the time comes. Notice how nobody even touches the issue of the national debt? That is because there is no intent to pay it back. Because this national debt is a benefit for the government. What does the government care, if the whole population owes this pile of many? It's not the politicians who owe paying back the debt. It's the weakest members of society, the poor, the sick, the middle class, the workers. The debt will rain down on the have nots.

The middle class will be destroyed. And the government offers no salvation. Because the government compounds the underlying problem, which is, debt.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2013

Information Relationships


Re: Explaining Electromagnetic Fields in Terms of Relativity

Postby nameta9 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:47 pm 

"What does this tell us about space? Our preconceptions about the notion of 'space' are wrong; there are no locations, only relations. What is space then? There is no grid of space, no coordinate plane; there is no real "distance" between things."

This was starting to get good, then you took the wrong road. this is the beginning of the concept of Information Relationship, this concept has been bugging me for quite a while, I can't decompose it into something smaller or clearer, no reductionism here operating: a relationship is exactly what ? an interaction ? a point like interaction with no space or time involved ? an event ? an elementary particle of the Principle of Non Contradiction and Identity ? a bit ? Information as such has no "size", no extension in space, it has no "time", it is essentially out of time, out of any reference, it needs two to dance, it self defines itself reciprocally with another bit of information, but then you need a processor, a mind, a large ensemble to decode the bit, the simple monolithic slab of pure Information Relationships and assign them, connect them to interactions, to events that may then extend in space and time, but reductionism in this case reduces the atoms of existence to pure nothings, having no space and time and only existing the moment an observer - processor beholds such entities.

Information Relationships cannot be decomposed into something clearer, it will forever be undefined, irreducible complexity, it cannot be made up of smaller pieces, it is either all or nothing, without space or time or size and in fact this is what makes it so powerful, just like mathematics and the imagination, you can invent worlds infinitely more incredible and complex of what is available using simple logic and simple space and time: the square root of a negative number, the square root of space or time, concepts that have no sense but can be created with information alone, and so forth and so on, if 0 is time and 1 is space what is 43 or -6ty ? yes you can force incredible inventions that tease logic, use some logic and then use their impossibility to be clear and defined..

And I can go on forever trying to understand "Information Relationships" the basic "Interaction", the basic "Event" of existence...





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Re: Government is not Economy

Postby nameta9 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:01 pm
"if you get rid of all the real jobs, real workers, and private businesses "

So you assume that there are enough possible exchanges for full occupation of everyone ? are there millions of real jobs - workers and private businesses that can exchange so many goods, enough so that everyone works for private entities ?

Not so, the governments must hire millions (and the military and many other entities) to compensate the fact that there can and will never be enough real jobs for so many people: and this can be done because the Technological Economy creates enough wealth to distribute a lot of it to people who do nothing.

Oh and by the way, the health care bloat is also a lot of fake jobs isn't it ? and the education and college bloat is also a lot of fake jobs isn't it ? and so forth, it never ends....

And give me an example of a real job which isn't in manufacturing building cars, or in construction building houses and a few others will you.

Don't put financial industry, they do nothing but fluff (and rip you off), don't put movies and cinema and entertainment that is also doing nothing only fluff for bored people at home watching TV and so on.

Moralistic you are though...

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Re: Government is not Economy

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Re: Government is not Economy

Postby nameta9 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:12 pm
Hey Das,your AVATAR... did you stick wild symbols, signals and chemicals in your brain style ? you are experimenting with your brain, did you crack open your cranium and shove a v8 engine in it and a jet engine for extra measure ? you are an Instant Singularity, how many new universes have you visited, what new wild emotional states and sense organs did you discover by changing all the neural circuits and so on ? how many microprocessors did you shove in your Man Brain that has now become a new processor, a slab of Matter interacting with another slab of Matter and defining all of a new universe and new Information Relationship Sets, etc... brainium abounds...did you make a huge trillion pages long incredibly intricate and complex diagram of a new brain with trillions of new symbols and connections and designs and signals and all kinds of things (trillions of times more wild and complex than those pictures of microprocessors you can find on the Internet) and implement it ? can you imagine what incredible experiences and states and so forth they can generate with a brain made like that ?

There are trillions upon trillions of new combinations you can try out by modifying all of the configurations of Matter in your cranium, go for it, just do it man, do it...



hey kris, are you sick in the head ? I want free handouts, I want free cash, I want other people's money, who cares about ethic and morality, I am a free entity who is greater than GOD.

We don't need further Economic Growth, we already have all the growth we will ever need, we need to distribute huge chunks of cash to all so that they can consume baby, consume, and buy like crazy, we need huge projects building trillions of rockets and skyscrapers and all things, trillions of cars, and so forth. There are 100 trillion dollars sitting in the banks worldwide not doing nothing, just being used as a weapon against the have nots in the form of inflated home prices and rents and so forth, nowe just steal that cash and give it all !

What is really hurting the economy is this stone age idea of "having to deserver it", "having to work hard for it" and so forth: nothing further from the truth, we need to give all the huge wealth a Technological Economy produces out to all for free instead of stifling the economy by an 18th century mentality that still doesn't see what we have become in the 21st century.

Of course our rich, developed economies will stagnate, the haves already have all they need (the home owners, old spoiled brats) and the have nots will never have anything, so it is this sick desire to punish the have nots with huge home prices and rents, cheap jobs paying little and so forth that is killing the economy and hurting all the poor, not the other way around.

In the meantime, the FED prints 80 billion dollars a month and simply hands it all out to the already super rich and their banks (or so they say so, can you believe it ? can you believe anything ? does it even make any sense ? does anything at all that is constantly being communicated by the news and Internet and books and all kinds of Information make any sense at all ? is any of it true ? what is even the meaning of true and so forth), what thugs, just this alone demonstrates how much free wealth is constantly being generated and should be given out to all for free, UNCONDITIONALLY.

Now go on, inside foul mouth, keep on blaming the poor and keep on sustaining an old fashion mentality destined to kill the world.


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Monday, November 11, 2013

Free Salaries = Save Nature!


Free Salaries = Save Nature!

Postby nameta9 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:47 am
Another disaster caused by "climate change" or CO2 increasing in the Philippines (if this is even true, can we ever really know ? the climate is such a complex intractable process all of our logic and models are probably worth nothing anyways, after all we can't even solve the three body problem so imagine solving the climate, but anyways...). So is China going to keep on buying 10 million cars a year ? is air traffic destined to continue ? is the world going to keep on producing and spewing CO2 by building real estate and TVs and smartphones and all else ? are people going to still have to "go to work" and use energy and burn CO2 and so forth ? Of course...

You can't render 10 billion people idle, you can't keep them at home watching TV so they don't have to go to work and use cars and pollute and so forth, so what gives ? You have to give them Free Salaries and Cheap Rents, and all the basics for free so they don't have to fight and work for it, give it all out for free so the economy doesn't have to keep on being such large scale activity and manipulation of nature and such.

Of course I don't see any green environmentalists asking or demanding for this to save Nature, since the greens and environmentalists are all wealthy, spoiled, well off "Nature Lovers" (just like the old hippies were all bored middle class kids with too much time on their hand playing around for an imaginary revolution) who don't care how much rents are and so forth (they want rents and homes to cost a lot that is why they are always against building homes and building in general, to preserve the value of their "real estate" with the excuse that they are doing it for Nature and not their own wallets). They want to keep their class status so they say everyone has to work and deserve it or maybe go back to the stone ages and agriculture with your bare hands and so forth. And they hugely hepled create the disaster of Nature going wild and climate going wild by not allowing Nuclear Energy and Atomic Energy to be dominant, the cleanest and most advanced energy should have been the number one energy source for decades, instead they created a terror psychology against all things nulcear, that is the cleanest, healthiest and best energy ever, go figure, so they got carbon energy burning to generate electricity and that created tons of CO2 and killed the climate once and for all and so on. Those few Nuclear accidents are nothing compared to the damage the non use of Nuclear will create, and those few accidents are so exaggerated, so blown out of proportion to make it look like Nuclear is the devil, maybe they are paid by the oil industry or carbon industry to make Nuclear look bad.

And instead of burning all trash in energy creating furnaces they want you to separate the trash in so many extra plastic bags and then talk bad about plastic bags: we could have used one bag for all and burn it but by their green religion force everyone to multiply the use of plastic bags creating ever more glut of plastic bags and so forth and so on.

Everything the greens Nature Lovers do is another extra damage to the environment, they never solved a problem only created ever worse ones, with their phony Nature Loving religion.

They should demand Free Salaries to all, Cheap Rents, enought with this "you have to deserve it" mentality, enough with this "work mentality"; the hard work idea of life, the Technological Economy is now rich enough to give everything to all for free.

AMEN..



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Saturday, November 9, 2013

Spider Queen

[quote="Uccisore"]

Point being, handing out money to the poorest people doesn't do anything except set the prices of everything higher, because price is an expression of the fact that there's not enough of something to go around [i]no matter how much numerical money everyone has[/i]. 


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IN other words, I'd rather make 10,000 a year in a world in which cars and video games are dirt cheap because rich people have flying cars and robots, than make 50,000 a year in a a world in which that 50,000 guarentees me bread and water. The numbers really aren't important.[/quote]

But that is the point: there is way more than enough of everything to go around that everything should be dirt cheap: millions of empty homes worldwide, thousands of empty McMansions, etc. there is a glut of stuff, homes, and the potential to build enough for everyone (with millions of idle hands unemployed worldwide, you could build everything you can imagine for all 10 billion people in a year, bar none) : but the mentality, culture, the need to be unequal to another, the need to force another into need makes the prices of the BASIC needs sky high, as high as possible, just because, as an expression of power, as an expression of forced, make believe, arbitrary inequality just because, because people like to be unequal to others and the power that gives them so forth.

The case of sky high health care in the USA, sky high home prices in Southern Europe and so forth is a fake, make believe, arbitrarily assigned price that needs to be high in order for a richer class to make money off basic needs, there is no structural or objective reason for this, there is no resource scarcity or no "not enough for everyone" operating, just a forced situation: actually it is the other way around, there is a glut of homes in Spain, so much so that they now need to demolish thousands of buildings hoping to prop up the prices, how does that make sense according to the Standard Economic Theory that always wants to make you believe that there are real objective measures and reasons for economies that do bad and "do not grow", when in all truth it is all BS excuses.

In fact the economies are doing bad because they cannot employ and build everything for everyone, the real potential is there just stifled, put on hold waiting for the prices to go up or some mechanism to create a profit to pop up again, aka higher prices and so forth.

But a Technological Economy has a deep problem: it can easily build and saturate all markets with all goods (thousands of empty homes in Spain, and don't even get me started with China, a glut of buildings beyond anything ever seen on earth!) can create a huge amount of work for a few years and then there is nothing left to do anymore since it has all been built and achieved (a billion cars can easily be built if wanted and so forth), hence it generates way too much wealth way too easily to know how to mange this new situation, hence it is in crisis mode constantly, always not knowing what to do, total chaos and instability, the Technological Economy flies in the face with all of the stone age, 18th century "hard work" mentality all the BS economists talk about, infrastructure means nothing, can be built by the ton loads as had been done in JAPAN, yet JAPAN has been stagnant for 20 years, or so they say, I don't believe in anything anymore since JAPAN seems to be way richer then so many other countries that seemed to have always "grown".

Even a simple old fashion 1970s or 1980s equilibrium where prices where at least in line with salaries would go a long way to "solve the crisis" (even though these social - political -cultural problems will never be solved as Man is Problem by definition).

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Friday, November 8, 2013

Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!






Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

Postby nameta9 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:04 pm
Science, Logic Finally DEBUNKED!

We are all just a moment away from Total Oblivion, just a heart beat away from disappearing forever and for good instantaneously - by stroke, heart attack, earthquake, sudden death, etc. So now what happens to our huge, elaborate, completely totalizing and saturating mental construction of the world ? ... of all the rules, logic, the memories, the entire structure of the universe we have created in our mind to navigate it, a complex incredible structure made up of rules, and thought paths, laws learned, patterns recognized, all of the repetitive patterns discovered and translated and formatted into laws of physics, laws of living and behavior, social conventions and so forth and so on constructed during a lifetime lasting decades ? ...

It all disappears in a jiffy, all the laws where worthless, you disappeared instantly anyways, the repetitive patterns we have so much faith in were useless, the logic and rules false, irrelevant, fake, made up, a bluff, a deception. And so it is with all of our memories and rules and the entire constructions of our mind, all of our memories are a liability as much as they are an asset in that they condition us into believing too much in them, the memories and knowledge condition us to falsify constantly and continuously reality, in order to make it abide and converge to our models and expectations, that we think are so solid and real and confirmed: nothing further from the truth, they are zero, nothing.

This is because a Mind Brain is simply a processor that adapts its neural networks and rules according to the inputs it receives and creates a complete set of laws, it completely self programs itself according to a program imposed by nature, reality and itself and so forth. But there is really nothing behind it:

Just because we are used to seeing things evolve and slowly develop, a story line makes us think reality is more than a simple instantaneous input, reaction, output, a point like event disconnected from all past, future present and space, a nothing that exists for a moment that tends to last zero, a sequence of zero time duration moments and pictures creating a fake story and so on.

But you can imagine a universe, a processor, a mind, a modified mind that is instantaneously programmed with all of the memories and a given life story and that mind thinks it existed for a long time when in all truth it was assigned instantly, and so it is with all reality, Matter self defines itself in a moment, creates an entire universe from zero and then makes itself think that it evolved and had a story line. And so forth and all of the combinations in between, a universe of constantly changing instantaneous Information Relationships reciprocally defining themselves and creating reality and then disappearing, every moment a new universe, a new big bang, watch out for the next moment, you may disappear.

And so all laws and logic are a never ending deception and illusion that works for just some time and then is useless and worthless for eternity and so forth. Of course all contradictions accepted and are operating as usual.


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Re: Pubilc Debts - The Truth

Postby nameta9 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:39 am
Amorphos wrote:They just need to create more 'artificial wealth' [is that what it is?] for the third world, and in a manner that fits the logic – so to say. e.g. fits the story being told.


There is no artificial wealth, only power struggles, distributions of money representing wealth and so on. A Technological Economy generates tons of REAL WEALTH which has no way to be distributed since people "Must Deserve It", hence the distribution of money is always a conditional, always dependent on some aribtrary value system, some aribtrary "reason" to distribute it, someone deciding (and thus having much power) who or where or what money will be distributed to who etc. All the BS language and politics and so forth that all the economists chant about like workers must be competitive, or cost too much, or we need more innovation and so on is simply a secret code saying that money will be distributed only if certain conditions, aesthetic conditions are achieved, according to what fake, arbitrary, almost moralistic model countries and economies follow.

But mostly money is distributed because a "Profit Must Be Made", hence the huge worldwide real estate price inflations and overconstructions that occured in the USA and Spain and so forth: the only reason why the homes were built was because the prices kept on increasing every month, homes in Spain tripled in price in 6 years (they tripled in Italy too, only they still don't notice it, they still can't see how insanely high their home prices are compared to their puny salaries), in the USA they sometimes doubled (flip that house! TV shows, etc.) and so forth, hence the "productive forces" of a Technological Economy are activated and can freely express all their power (just like in the last world wars, only now we have even more power). Also a huge Credit Bubble appeared, meaning Free Cash to all, hence subprime loans and this too is a result of the power of a Technological Economy generating trillions of dollars of extra cash worldwide that doesn't know how to be used to make a profit, hence through the worldwide banking systems, got loaned out to all the poor fools in the USA and Spain so that they too could "buy a house".

Now in Spain they want to demolish thousands of buildings (they have hundreds of thousands of new empty homes (that always cost too much compared to the puny Spainsh salaries), and the buildings are quite nice looking, take a look at it with Street View Google Maps) hoping to make the prices "go back up again", not noticing how insane the whole ball game is. Creative Destruction and it will increase the GDP of Spain as destroying wealth and breaking things up counts as a positive just as much as building things up, go figure...

We are actually too rich to know what to do with ourselves, a Technological Economy generates real wealth, can build millions of homes easily, can give it out to all for almost free, we just can't wrap our heads around this, hence we create the debts mechanisms, and the profits mechanisms and we make everyone play the game of who is winning against who is losing, who is gaining cash to the detriment of who else, all a poker game etc.

The greens say that some externality is paying for this free wealth generating technology, the climate, the environment, the limited oil in the ground we are exploiting once and for all and so on: I tend to not believe this story line, yes, some of it is true, yes there are limitations, yes, there are problems, but they can be solved somewhow if we want, the real limitations are all psychological, social, political, stone age brains reasoning according to systems that have completely changed. Just look at Peak Oil, they have been warning us for decades of oil ending, we now have a glut of energy, gas, wind, solar and so forth, I see no energy limits here: maybe the only real environmental limit is the CO2 in the atmosphere and global climate change, this may be a real danger, but anyways...




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Tuesday, November 5, 2013

Pay Me Back!




Re: Pubilc Debts - The Truth

Postby nameta9 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:36 pm
Also, a very important corollary: the debts must be paid back in some way essentially, so goes the standard economic (BS) theory, but in order to pay it back the "Economies Must Grow", the Debt to GDP ratio must decrease, that is the GDP must grow and so lower this ratio, but GDP growth means economies become richer, have more money, this is why all the stooges in Europe, the USA and JAPAN (and most of the world) keep on repeating, like broken records, like robots, like the total idiots and clowns they all are, that we must "Spark Growth", the "Economies Must Grow", like obsessed (and always blaming this or that for the "low growth", the workers, the economy "not competitive enough", the education level, the not enough innovation and so forth and so on) wishing on a star, wishing in miracles, since this will no longer ever happen and if it does the growth will always be minimal as anyone living in the USA, EU and JAAPN can testify, jut look at the standard of living in the last 20 years in most of these places, etc.

So the higher the debts means the more "guilty" (the morality police) the economies - societies - countries are of "Not Growing Enough", since the promise of the last few decades was, oh, you can make all the debts you want, we will increase our GDP, aka become richer and always be able to pay them back, since we had so much GDP growth from 1950 to 2000 (never mentioning how a true exception that era was, how incredible it was that so many luck chance pieces contributed to such a long period of economic growth in the developed world making them go from undeveloped to developed, etc.).

So now the DEBT/GDP ratio is 100 % in the USA, between 80 to 170 % in the EU according to which failed and bankrupt state you consider, and 200 % in JAPAN or so they say (can you even believe all of this economic BS ? I have a hard time giving any credit to any of this "Standard Economic Theory" BS at all at this point...), that means that these economies must grow and grow a lot in order to decrease that ratio, something totally impossible!

It is like a person who has greater expenses that the salary he takes in but is always hoping to get a raise, some automatic miracle raise that will make him pay it all back again. But why should he get a raise ? why should these countries grow, if growth is over and done with for good for most of these old, saturated, conservative, decrepit stone age mentality entities that are nostalgic of the great 1950s and 1960s ? why on earth should anyone give them raise if they are worth virtually ZERO, since the value of people, economies, civilizations and the entire human race can always be assigned arbitrarily to anything you want, the value is simply given by what the more powerful force in a transaction assigns the other side ?

So now keep on chanting that the Economies Must grow and "Create Jobs" (totally idiotic) and so forth, never looking at the truth square in the face: the party is over, now give out free salaries and cheap rents to all and cut all the BS!



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Pubilc Debts - The Truth

Postby nameta9 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:32 am
Pubilc Debts - The Truth

The reason why public debts (and private debts ) and debts in general keep on balooning all over the world mostly is simply because there is no other way to distribute money in a Modern Technological Economy that doesn't need workers and work and labor anymore. There is no other way to distribute money than creating debts, creating mostly fake jobs (government jobs, military jobs, financial jobs, services and education and health care related jobs all creating fluff and make believe necessities and so forth) and then after fighting over how to distribute that money, who is "wasting it", who or what is not needed (government workers are an excellent target for this, an easy target, but no one targets the hugely bloated and useless financial industry or education industry or bloated beyond belief of the health care industry and so forth).

The problem is labor can't really be "created" much anymore, no matter what you do or how you slice and dice it: the technological economy optimizes away labor, all kinds of labor, the huge economies of scale, the energy and information and transportation and other large scale global networks and automations and research and so forth get rid of labor, actually target labor in all possible ways, actually all the talk of research, technology and innovation "creating new jobs" is the most obscene lie and contradiction ever: these activities exist exactly to eliminate as many jobs as possible under the form of "cutting waste" and paying people is always a "waste". Labor created as "people needing the activities of other people" flies right in the face of technology as technology tries to make people as independent and free as possible: of course you can tune the technology so as to create dependencies (what is actually done by MS and Google and Apple and so many others, etc.) and hence the "need of other people" and their "labor, services and presence" and so forth, but this is an arbitrary imposition, masking the fact that people needing people must be forced upon and is not a really natural outcome of technology and so forth.

Hence governments, politics and all kinds of social forces intervene "arbitrarily" outside of the imaginary perfect "market forces" (that never really existed) imposing and forcing money distributions in all kinds of arbitrary ways, for all kinds of arbitrary reasons to all kinds of arbitrary people for no reason at all, but hugely debated, every lobby trying to convince everyone else of how "needed "and "necessary" their puny work is needed, how they are not a waste of money compared to someone else and so forth.

And so the debts and public debts needed to pay for these non needed jobs - but mostly people keep on increasing, pension costs (the "liabilities") keep on increasing and so forth: and when you really actually need something then those costs can be put up as high as possible like housing and health care making believe that it is a necessity for those prices to be so high, but really masking the simple play of forces and inequality of power represented by those prices (simply people fighting each other with money).

So the USA has 10 trillion dollars of debt and JAPAN has 4 trillion dollars of debt and the EU has 5 trillion dollars of debt and so forth: that is the measure of how much excess capacity a technological economy generates, how much free wealth is generated, how much money had to be arbitrarily distributed to keep on paying people so as to not let the economies become third world and dirt poor.

But all the talk of reducing debts and waste and killing government jobs is really a hidden agenda to simply redistribute that money in a different way to make some groups or persons get a bigger piece of the pie by taking it away from others.

Are you really going to cut a trillion dollars of debts ? that is equivalent to killing 50 million jobs or so, so now which jobs are you going to kill ? who are you going to punish ? who is the bad guy wasting money and the good guy not wasting money ? (for me the health care mafia would be the first I would burn to the ground and kill all of those jobs no doubt but anyways).

Then there is this imaginary common good ideology, this imaginary "healthy economy" theory that good economies are competitive, are research and innovation oriented and "create jobs" and that those economies doing bad are "morally wrong" and at fault for not being competitive and "creating jobs" and so forth: another false theory and ideology brainwashing millions, making them believe that there are really objective measures for the economy when it is all simply a power game, a war of forces, a war between people wanting to get a bigger piece of the cake, there is no morality in the economy, no right way or wrong way to do things, only fights, agendas, politics, conflicts and wars and nothing is really generated or created only everyone blaming everyone else for "wasting too much" and being a waste and so forth.

The solution would be to accept that the Technological Economy has changed the nature of work for good: work and labor is now mostly obsolete; of course jobs are still needed, activities are still needed, but the number of jobs needed compared to the number of people needing a job will keep on being ever more imbalanced, there is no way that millions of jobs will ever be created again, this is the truth, the job creating myth of the 20th century is over and done with, those jobs were created in the 20th century according to that level of technology, population and so forth, that is all over and done now.

So instead of creating "debts", just change the name of what you are creating and don't call them debts anymore, be honest and simply give out millions of free salaries to all and call them with their real name: HANDOUTS, FREE SALARIES, CHEAP RENTS OR FREE RENTS TO LIVE, and get over this stone age conflict saturated environment where everyone wants to declare war on everyone else because they "don't deserve a living" and so forth.

Be honest! but can Man reach this level of maturity ? not with this stone age contraption in his cranium, so crack open craniums and stick wild symbols in it, change the way it works, eliminate the free will conflict circuits and change the brain styles and so forth...






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