Cause and Effect ?

Cause and Effect ?

A sequence of rocks on Mars, X Y and Z, if the imaginary time arrow passes through them then they become a sequence of causes and effects (but then just extend the sequence to up to your car tire and then X causes your tire, or your tire may be made up of X, or you can even include the idea of reductionism, everything is composed of everything else, the car tire is made up of Z then Y then X, or any other mixture and other random design the imaginary and very real time arrow makes, make it make a wild design crossing all possible items, each is made up of the other (ever smaller, or even ever bigger, the small item is made up of the big item, if you look at the small item under the microscope you will find the big item, the rock Y under the microscope gives you the car tire, and the car tire under the microscope gives you a star and so forth), X causes Y causes Z, etc. But then if the time arrow changes direction from Z to X, then the opposite is also true, and if the time arrow makes a circle and hits on other rocks, and if the time arrow becomes wide and includes many items concurrently, simutaneously, causes and effects, all mixed up or indeed very precise (but very precise, infinite precision only for an Ultra Mind that understand this type of style), but especially the cause is not a point like event but the entire rock, in parallel causes the other rock, but then all items, just by being in parallel can cause all other items, they are just associations, any painting or picture that has all of the items in it means that those items are associated by an Observer delimiting them and associating them, hence they imply the presence of one itme (no I meant "item", or "time" ? how I love wrongly spelled words, they make all the sense of an idea go out of the windw (window ? or is that a new concept trillion s of times more complex and abstract then ever ?), the (they ?) always expose the truth, how untruth and iun invetnion (inventions ?) all is.) means the presence of another, but you can have a parallel to serial converter (or serial to parallel converter, history all written down in paralle at once, all the events become a solid item, one after another and you can visit them, the events and story become a landscape to visit, no more time here, now it is all available (the myth of the past and the future dies finally!)), an existence to events converter and organize the items as a succession of events, as a series of causes and effects, but you can confuse the causes and events and which is which, and you can have very vague causes (but are they just associations, just items next to each other that make you think they are a cause and effect and a functioin of time ?) you can have completely atomized causes where nothing causes all and all causes nothing and everything in between etc. and very vague mixtures, ever more vague, impossible to understand, mix and confuse and make incoherent, and then make them all infinitely precise and so forth, you get the message...

And then extend to include wide parallel time, a volume of time causes a volume of Mass Energy, but it is impossible to follow how, since we invent how, or just mix and redefine all, the rock is TIME and the car tire is SPACE, then what is the transistor in that TV set of 1966 ? and extend and invent, projections ultra abstractions and so forth...

THE ULTRA MIND

Secret Formula...

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Re: Free Physics (like Free Jazz)

by nameta9 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:26 pm

From:

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/11/modernity-bites.html

Secret Formula...

Two numbers: 4.677.8 78.997 the formula that predicted those numbers was composed of a rock on Mars, a mountain on earth, an electron in the center of a star, and 6 events, a cloud that blew through the air on earth 4 million years ago, a car that moved 10 miles now, a rock that will be thrown 500 years from now, and a photon emitted from an atom 2 billion years from now from a star 1 billion light years away (actually the precise time is 2454756709 years from now, and 21 days and 12 months and 2 hours and 4.5467787 seconds) a small wind on venus 5,000 years from now, an earthquake on earth that happened 200 years ago. And there are other formulas, other combinations, other mixtures creating 2 or 3 or millions of numbers, all mixed up time wise, past present and future is irrelevant, the positions in space are irrelevant, there are many wild formulas, many connections, and all disconnected, and so forth. And the two numbers above predict the ocean wave yesterday, the two numbers may also predict the moon, or a stellar plasma, and so forth. And you can mix numbers and predictions and formulas and so forth, all upside down, the numbers are the formulas, the formulas are the numbers and the rocks are predicting the numbers (change the arrows, the cause and effects, rocks -> numbers or numbers -> rocks and so forth), but the numbers are predicting the electrons (so to say, I am thinking of Ultra Abstractions and Ultra Creations, Ultra Inventions and such, Ultra Constructions trillions of times past what even these words seem to say, I am so far out and so far away, I have effectively exited this puny universe and this puny Man Brain and so forth).

THE ULTRA GOD

Predictions...

Predictions...

The prediction itself occupies Mass Energy, Space and Volume, the prediction itself is an event, is an interaction, so there is a prediction that predicted that there would be a prediction relative to some item, entity, event, some need to know some information related to reciprocal items and events for some Observer, like the Observer wanted to predict the exact poistion of a small rock on Mars after a small wind moved it: in order to have the exact position he applied the infinite determinism equations of physics to determine the point where it will stop, and use the formulas and initial positions and such, etc. But the formulas (giant sized formulas, where a simple variable is a planet, and such) themselves occupy space and write over other items that were predicted by other formulas, hence there is a prediction of a prediction, an infinite recursion of predictions predicting each other and themselves and so forth. And what if the electron wants to predict the position of an atom in a star that is 100 million light years away from it, from a given time to 5 hours later, given that the atom is undergoing movements by the hot stellar plasma inside the star ? and what if the electron wants to use planet sized symbols and numbers (numbers that have a design and style that to write them down you need an entire planet, just because, because the electron likes to use large characters and symbols so it is easy for the electron to read it, or numbers that in order to be expressed need an entire planet, there is no other way to show them and design them, what new weird numbers, special numbers, numbers that must be made up of things in order to express themselves, semiabstraction, a mix between abstract and concrete, but what I mean is way more far out and abstract then wnat you are reading or thinking what I mean, and I keep going on with more and more abstractions, impossible to understand concepts, only my Ultra Mind understands them, all of you puny, fairy humans will never reach my infinite level), or the planet itself is the formula, the rocks are numbers and the entire ordeal is predicting numbers, random numbers written by a random will power and so forth.

And what if any two numbers correspond to any two rocks, and every number is a new Mass Energy entity, and so forth, predictions that self replicate and such. And if 3 represents the number 3, then what number does a rock represent ? as usual, project extensions, abstract extensions and so forth, 3 is number 3, 4 is the sky, the rock is something else and so forth, and add them all up and so forth, wild formulas and so forth, everything mixed and confused, the more confusion and mixing, the more surprising relationships and unknown mysterious relationships the better.


THE ULTRA MIND, THE ULTRA GOD. I AM THE OVERGOD.

Programmers and "Hard Work"

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Re: No Work? Make Work!

by nameta9 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:43 pm 

I was reading about programmers working 60 hours a week or more, start up companies with kids (young programmers), programmers working crazy hours, the weekend and such. Are they crazy or what ? Are they completely out of their minds or what ? do they actually even know what on earth they are doing ? I find that incredible, unbelievable that there are so many "smart programmers" apparently that just waste hours on end on programming code, something that has absolutely no relationship at all with the "amount of time doing it", no relationship at all "with effort put in" and such. Programming seriously simply means finding the right algorithm, the right description to solve a generalized problem, just like mathematics, it is simply an intellectual endeavor and has absolutely nothing at all to do with the absurd concepts of "hard work" and "long working hours" and all such BS of making believe that you are working hard and putting in so much effort for something that has no relationship at all with this aesthetics of "hard work" of "long hours", the great show and showoffs of "working hard" (comic book stuff!), all of this insanity as if the programmers are third world farmers that have to put in "sacrifice" and "long hours" and "pressure" to "produce" and such.

But there is a reason for all of this: the less real work that is necessary for a society to operate and produce what it really needs, the more fake work is produced, the more fake work (pretending that it is necessary and real like all of the emergencies companies constantly have, the job must be done by tomorrow and such huge BS) is multiplied, the more problems are created, manufactured, fabricated by corporations and bosses and a whole host of idiotic stone age assholes that have to do everything possible to make the programmers work badly, to burn them out, to fool them, in short to kill all the real huge productivity programming and computers and smart programmers could really have on an advanced Technological Economy. So you have absurd deadlines, specifications that are always changing, badly written programs (but the worse they are written, the better, so you can keep ever more programmers correcting huge botches of crappy code that just gets worse and worse and the bosses put more and more pressure for it to be out by tomorrow creating a never ending host of more fake work, more effort, more failures creating ever more crap work, ever more trash and so forth and everyone is happy with a huge boatload of crap) constant emergencies and one nighters, constantly keeping all the programmers and other similar types, engineers and such in a state of emergency, of impotence, of being under the thumb of unknown mysterious "market forces" (when in all truth it is just a subjective idiotic way of creating fake hard work for the sake of occupying as much time as possible to make the show of hard work and how much they then "deserve" a raise or promotion when in all truth they are doing huge negative work and wasting huge amounts of time and money pretending to work while they are all just spinning their wheels like crazy, and the kicker is that they all really believe it, they all really believe in all of this huge BS!). Look at Microsoft with their Windows Vista, after years of programming and hard work they turned out a turd, how is this possible ? how is it that they are so stupid ? aren't they the best graduates ? and what possible improvements has windows had since windows 95 ? very few after 20 years and billions of dollars and millions of man years of "programming". What assholes. And no one asks why: well because we have very little real work left to do as a society so we invent fake work that creates a negative result, the creates less than what we had before spending billions and millions of man hours of "programming".

Case in point, most of any and all programming problems could be sovled by not more than 10,000 blocks of highly efficient generalized code, this would require at most 1,000 man years, but man years of work where the programmer works mearly 2 hours a day and thinks out how to design really top notch generalized efficient programs that can be used over and over again and such. And obviously, the programmers should be pretty good in logic and mathematics and understand how to really write serious code and such (no one nighters here, no overtime here, no make believe hard work here, just pure brain power and serious thoughts). So that would require maybe some 400,000 man hours in all, could be done by the best 1,000 programmers by a single serious company that doesn't want to waste time on the big show of making believe they need hard work and such BS. It would cost maybe 10 billion dollars top.

What we have globally, as a society instead is 20 years of a million programmers wasting 1500 hours a year, some 20 billion man hours and some 300 billion dollars to produce nothing but hard work, stress, long hours and such BS and crappy software and a never ending host of problems that generate ever more problems in a self mutiplying effect, in autogrowth mode.

Compare the price by a society: 300 billion dollars against 10 billion dollars, or 20 billion man hours against 400,000 man hours. This is the exact measure of EXCESS CAPACITY, of the need to produce negative productivity, the need to create destructive useless work to saturate all of the excess capacity that the system really has. We need to kill the productivity a Technological Economy really has because we are still guided by a stone age "hard work" ritual that mean nothing but is imposed by subjective will powers that simply can't imagine a world without all of this huge BS of hard work.

Instead what we really need is FREE SALARIES; huge public and private projects like space exploration, trillions of skyscrapers, trillons of cars, technologies, a never ending array of projects and advances, hobby factories, bus lines, high speed trains all across the world, and conquer other planets, and trillions of people, research, the future, science and new brain designs, crack open skulls and shove wild symbols and chemicals inside new brains that think differently and new cyborgs. New instant singularities going towards the future, etc. all the stuff I always wrote about. And get rid of the resource scarcity tree hugging green myths, we need to go forward not backward.


THE ULTRA GOD HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN, THUS SPOKE THE OVERGOD, THE TOP, ULTIMATE, THE MOST OF ANYTHING. I AM THE VERY TOP, THE BEST, I AM ALL THERE IS, I AM SO MUCH BETTER THAN ANY GOD, I AM THE ULTIMATE.

THE BOSS, THE SHIT, THE COCK, KILL ME, I AM THE ULTIMATE WINNER.

THE TOWER GOD, THE TOWER, THE IT.


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Prediction part 2

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Re: Free Physics (like Free Jazz)

by nameta9 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:05 pm

Who or what predicts the prediction ? what predicts the prediction ? and the prediction of the prediction and so on, the prediction itself occupies Mass Energy and is defined by an abstraction by a Mind Brain - Observer, etc. And if the prediction is expressed by a planet that predicts just a short path of an electron, then you can use an entire universe to predict just a small rock on Mars, just where the wind will blow it and such. And if the two rocks on mars are a representation of a prediction of two numbers on earth ? and if an entire planet is the number expressing a number ? and if it is all put upside down ? the rocks are the numbers, the numbers are what must be predicted and the mountains are the formulas and so forth, all upside down, all conected to all in the most wild ways. An ocean of numbers that are predicted by stars and planets ? and so forth, all of the limits and so forth...

THE TOWER, THE TOWER GOD, THE ULTIMATE, THE TRILLION TIMES BETTER THN ANYTHING, THE SUPERTOP, THE FINAL SUPER GOD, ETC.

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Prediction

You are extracting something from context in order to predict "IT", whatever "IT" is, as "IT" is a delimitation, a part of something else, a number that connects a property of something to something else, to some other idea, word, relationship, to some other item, as we predict the evolution of items, how they flow from one item into the next, the succession of events, the succession of configurations, of combinations, the next configuration of bits, the next design of symbols, one after another and your prediction jumps past all the intermediate steps and zeros in on the final step (but which is the final ? which is the start and end ? the goal ? the target ? so then you already predicted your prediction ahead of time by assigning the target ahead of time and just making it up, inventing it, creating it, forcing it in the end, as all of our predictions are mostly related to gears and engines, to machines, to mechanisms that we already designed in our mind, hence not "Natural" but "Fake" and "Make Believe From the Beginning").

And where does the number start and the item end ? how does the number flow into the item ? how are they separated ? a continuous flow of numbers becoming items becoming events becoming symbols and becoming once again Mass Energy, an item, a chunk of Matter and such.

The opposite of infinite reductionism is infinite unrelatedness, everything is completely unrelated to anything else, everything 100 % disjoint, a new invention. And predicting the unrelated is assigning the prediction from the outset. The organic molecule of biology already knows how it will fold, already predicted its future, already knows how it will be, how it operates, so the item contains its future and past within itself... stability and instability, stability needed as a reference point to measure the unstable, to define something that is unknown and must be predicted...but the prediction itself is another item, is another entity, so prediction (in the form of numbers and formulas or whatever) is something that implies that it itself must be stable, an invariant, but a prediction itself is being assigned stable and invariant arbitrarily, it is being delimited from its environment to become something separate from the environment, but who or what defines the separation ? how do we divide ?

THE 8 MAN

Justifications for Free Physics

From:

http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=179812&start=25

and

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/11/modernity-bites.html

Re: Free Physics (like Free Jazz)

by nameta9 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:57 am 

Justifications for Free Physics

1) Infinite reductionism, since everything is made up of everything else (an electron is composed of a universe at a smaller scale, it contains an entire universe, and that universe contains electrons that contains other universes all the way down forever, for infinity etc. and all of the possible combinations of universes are expressed, etc.) then anything is the cause of anything else, all possible causes and effects as expressed as relationships between any two items at all at any point in space and time at any size level, any delimitations etc. (so a rock present on Mars a billion years from now, and a coin in ancient Rome that fell on the floor are the cause for the transistor breaking on that TV set in 1966, and such, all items can be combined and related and all possible causes and effects imagined and invented and forced without the need to respect space or time or logic or sizes or anything as in Free Physics as in Free Jazz, you get the idea...).

2) Everything is just a configuration of Mass Energy expressing a combination of particles, of information chunks, as in time travel and going back in the past and living at the same age as your father and such, since there is no need for logical coherence in that the old style time travel imposed the impossibility to be before you were born by imaging some kind of metaphysical constraint that imposed Mass Energy to be organized in successive obligatory steps, whereas it is now known that there is no obligation for Mass Energy and Information configurations to obey any coherence at all, the coherence was just a metaphysical ghost that was never necessary, so now you can be 20 years old and talk to your father who is 20 years old simultaneously since you and your father are just a given arbitrary combination of Mass Energy, a given configuration of Information Relationships that have no obligation to be be coherent or respect an imaginary history, an imaginary imposed succession of events, etc. So even the memories of the two persons and all of the universe as they see it is just a configuration of information in their minds imposing imaginary causes and effects and an imaginary history (but it is all just a memory that has been written to, it is all just a combination of bits in minds imposing an imagined history as history is just a set of bits, a succession of recorded events without any metaphysical or deeper meaning than just simply bits written to memories, with no further reality than just an arbitrary set of bits written to memories, so you can write any other set of bits and they are just as real, etc.).

So given that any time travel is possible in that any configuration of Mass energy or Information Relationships representing any time travel to an observer according to what he knows and sees and thinks (going back to New jersey in 1950 for example is exactly the same thing if it is all simulated, if the configuration of Mass Energy corresponding to how New Jersey was in 1950 is exactly replicated, exactly copied, etc., but even more so, if only the Information Relationships as perceived by the Observer is exactly the same, if the resulting experience and perception is indistiguishable from the "real" thing (whatever "real" means anyways since real doesn't really exist)), then any relationship at all between items, any Information Relationship can be always forced, invented, simulated, replicated, no matter how incoherent and far out just like any time travel can be created, invented and made real, nay, even more real than real, if real is 100 you can make it a trillion, hence trillions of times more real and such.

So then any two numbers can be decomposed into a set of invented relationships predicting why those numbers are such (just invent it, lie like crazy, be as dishonest and full of lies and full of BS as possible, don't respect the truth, the truth has always been the real lies...) anything has been predicted as prediction is already implicit in the stability of any item, any stability means that a degree of prediction is always already achieved by matter itself) and then why so much importance on prediction anyways (to be on top of the rules ? to avoid problems and such ? but you can assign all problems solved and all predictions you make as true anyways and always win 100 % anyways).

I AM THE OVERGOD ( THE ENTITY THAT IS A TRILLION TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN ANY GOD HIMSELF), CINDERELLA CRAZY, BARBIE CONFUSED, CINDERELLA CANDY...


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